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Offline Oilslick

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Retro fit Pretoria’s
« on: 27 October 2019, 21:44 »
Hi all,
I have a 2013 gti, currently on 18” Austin’s - looking at a used set of 19” Pretoria’s tomorrow - is somebody able to advise if these are a direct fit? Or is there anything that addition that needs to be done - my conxern would be that the speedo may be out due to the wheel diameter change?

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Chris

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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #1 on: 27 October 2019, 21:58 »
Speedo will under read very very slightly. Less than 1mph at 60mph.

https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=225&aspect=40&diameter=18&wheelwidth=7.5&offset=51&width2=235&aspect2=35&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8&offset2=50

Just make sure you fit the correct profile tyres, 235/35/19.
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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #2 on: 27 October 2019, 22:36 »
What Guzzle says ^^^

Plus they’re very prone to bends and buckles so check them carefully.
Oh, and make sure they’re genuine!

Other than that they’re a direct fit, same bolts and caps etc. 
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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #3 on: 28 October 2019, 10:13 »
Maybe a stupid question, but how do I check they are genuine and non buckled whilst viewing? Tia

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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #4 on: 28 October 2019, 10:30 »
Genuine will have VW part numbers on the back, they’ll be ET50 which will be stamped on them and are usually a unique blue/grey in colour. Some are gloss black and they’ll be harder to differentiate.
I can’t remember exactly now but think they’re made by Borbet for VW but memory tells me some might have been contracted to BBS. That’ll be stamped on the inside faces too.
Not many replicas will take the original centre caps and some won’t take original bolts and bolt covers either.

Running your eye around the circumference of the rim of the wheel inside and out should spot the worst of kinks, checking them thoroughly for any signs of cracking too. They are fragile wheels.
More minor buckles will generally only be spotted by putting the wheel on a balancing machine and spinning it. If they’re that minor they’ll easily be straightened but it’ll cost you!




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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #5 on: 28 October 2019, 10:33 »
This was the main reason I didn't go for Pretoria's, I absolutely love how they look but there was no way I was paying over a thousand pounds for wheels made of chocolate. I've bought wheels in the past that aren't straight which is why I'm very wary when buying secondhand, the only way to check them is to get them on a balancing machine. To check they are genuine lookout for the VW part number.


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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #6 on: 28 October 2019, 10:56 »
If I was buying a set now I’d go straight to CM Wheels and get a set their replicas.

Here’s what should be stamped on the back of real ones btw, handily this horror story is a current thread.
Caveat emptor

https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/33973-snapped-pretoria-spokes/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-510683
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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #7 on: 28 October 2019, 11:09 »
Is there not a chance that some faker replicated the stamps too?

I mean VW prets are real expensive, lots of chances to fake here and those clever Chinamen can visibly replicate anything cheaply
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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #8 on: 28 October 2019, 11:12 »
If I was buying a set now I’d go straight to CM Wheels and get a set their replicas.

Here’s what should be stamped on the back of real ones btw, handily this horror story is a current thread.
Caveat emptor

https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/33973-snapped-pretoria-spokes/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-510683

That R owner doesn't have a leg to stand on, unfortunately...  :sad:
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Re: Retro fit Pretoria’s
« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2019, 16:04 »
I bought Pretoria reps for our 2014 GTi, went for CM Wheels as the genuine ones buckle easy and as above make sure you fit 235 tyres



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