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Offline Guzzle

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Re: M135i
« Reply #130 on: 19 October 2019, 21:09 »
I've long since thought of VW treading the middle ground. Not quite as upmarket as BMW / Merc / Audi, but pitched slightly above the likes of Ford / Peugeot / Vauxhall etc. Hence why there is room for both Skoda and SEAT to sit below them in the pecking order. The gap isn't huge at this end of the market, but it is there.

So a comparison of a Golf with a 1 series seems no less rational to me than a comparison with a Focus. Comparing a Focus with a 1 series is where reason begins to get stretched.

Incidentally I also went to see the Focus ST today as well. I don't have a problem with the looks, it has an impressive list of standard equipment (although no fully digital instrument cluster - even as an option). I'm sure it will drive well, as previous generations all have. However I have to say the cabin and the build quality was disappointing. The driving position is fine, and the seats are comfortable. But the switchgear feels cheap, and although there are plenty soft materials, they don't feel tactile. The doors also lack a satisfying 'thunk' when closed firmly. In fact, i'd say if anything it feels like a class below both SEAT and Skoda. Not saying it's a bad car, but for something with a list price north of £30k, for me it just doesn't cut it.
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Re: M135i
« Reply #131 on: 20 October 2019, 08:46 »
That is a good summary for me. The killer on ST, in addition to the “quality feel” is the list price and likely rate of depreciation.
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Offline king monkey

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Re: M135i
« Reply #132 on: 20 October 2019, 08:57 »
Isn’t it something silly like £34k? Whatever happened to fast cheap Fords? I can remember looking at one on pcp when my mk7 pp was stolen. It was more per month over 3 years than 2 due to the horrific depreciation. In fact I bought my S3 because it was cheaper than another gti or anything else I looked at. Crazy.
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Offline mike roberts

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Re: M135i
« Reply #133 on: 20 October 2019, 10:10 »
There’s your RS3/M2/A45 I guess.

Then you’ve got the 4WD pot, R/A35/M135i

Then your FWD GTI/ST/Megane RS/I30N stuff.

Lines have blurred between the last two in terms of buyer and price.
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Offline davyk31

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Re: M135i
« Reply #134 on: 20 October 2019, 14:41 »
BMW are also rumoured to be bringing out a lower powered 2.0 litre with maybe 260bhp and front wheel drive to compete closer with the Golf GTi. Likely also going to be a higher powered version with something around 400bhp to play with the new A45. All good news for performance hatch lovers and let everyone choose their level or perhaps more often its budget that chooses the level.
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Re: M135i
« Reply #135 on: 21 October 2019, 11:17 »
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Re: M135i
« Reply #136 on: 21 October 2019, 21:38 »
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Re: M135i
« Reply #137 on: 28 October 2019, 16:27 »
Sorry to dig up an older thread, but a colleague of mine at work just this afternoon took delivery of his new 1 series. It's not an M135i by any means, just a "lowly" 116D M-Sport, but I have to say to being mighty impressed.

It's totally bog standard apart from the M-Sport trim level, slate grey paintwork (like the Golf TCR grey) and double clutch gearbox. For a BMW, I was very impressed at the standard level of kit. How much of this is part of the M-Sport trim, I don't know, but as standard it has very smart 18" alloy wheels, Full LED headlights and tail lights, large single chromed exhaust, leather (pleather) interior with seat squab extension, auto folding and dimming mirrors, auto lights, wipers, parking sensors, cruise control, digital dash, dual zone climate control, LED ambient lighting, leather steering wheel, Sat Nav (on what looks like a larger screen than my 8" unit in the GTI), city emergency braking and Lane keeping assist and Apple car play.

TBH, he's said the only thing it's missing coming from his MK7 Golf GT (his outgoing company car), is the adaptive cruise control, rear view camera (that his Golf had) and the load though position and rear arm rest in the seats.

For a diesel it's extremely quiet (although it has only got 56 miles on it), and the interior, rear and boot space now seems to be on a par with the MK7. 

All in all, very impressed. Think the MK8 will have to be something very special to beat this (unless you are a BMW hater) ?
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Offline fredgroves

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Re: M135i
« Reply #138 on: 28 October 2019, 17:03 »
Things missing vs my Mk7.5 GTD:

ACC (option on BMW)
Lumber support (option on BMW)
Android Auto (not an option...grrrr)
Load through/rear arm rest (an option on BMW but I won't bother)

Things I don't have on my Golf that are on my M135i spec:

Seat Squab extension (will be glad to have it back after pre-Golfs mainly having it)
Park assist/camera (comes with BMW tech pack that I spec'ed)
Lane Assist (standard on 1 series)
Blind spot monitoring (standard on 1 series)
HBA (BMW tech pack - not matrix led though!)
Traffic sign monitoring (BMW tech pack)
HUD (BMW tech pack)
Traffic data without using my phone as a wifi hotspot (standard on BMW put paid for annually after 3 years)
Wireless charging and wireless CarPlay (BMW tech pack and CarPlay is £80 per year after year 1)
Heated steering wheel (standard on 1 series I think)


Oh and its not a DSG box on the 1 series, just a 8 speed CVT I think... deffo not DSG.


The Mk8 has all of that possible I believe, except the seat squab extension - but its really down to how much that costs on a Mk8 - I think lots more than a M135i.... we shall see... in about 14 months time when a Mk8 GTI is available... your colleague has his now...

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Offline davyk31

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Re: M135i
« Reply #139 on: 28 October 2019, 18:51 »
Heated steering wheel is not standard on the 1 Series sadly.

To the poster above, what colour have you ordered.
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