Starting stop/start to pull away

[king monkey]

Agree with this.  Crawlers really bug me.

I’ve had my GTI 3 months and only just realised how Hold Assist works. I’d always wondered why you’d need such a thing with a DSG because it’ll never roll back on a hill while in drive anyway so I intentionally left it switched off.

Anyhow, I accidentally engaged it last weekend  and discovered it automatically applies the parking brake when you come to a full stop and if start/stop is engaged, it doesn’t start the engine by taking your foot off the brake pedal, requiring a press of the throttle.  The engine will still start up again if the car in front moves off, but the GTI won’t crawl forwards until you press the throttle.

On balance I quite like not having to sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (I’ve never been one to use the handbrake for anything other than parking up) so I’ll keep Hold Assist switched on.

This made me laugh Mutley. We’ve both had our cars about 3 months and I’ve only just figured this out this week too. 

[sjw]

Agree with this.  Crawlers really bug me.

I’ve had my GTI 3 months and only just realised how Hold Assist works. I’d always wondered why you’d need such a thing with a DSG because it’ll never roll back on a hill while in drive anyway so I intentionally left it switched off.

Anyhow, I accidentally engaged it last weekend  and discovered it automatically applies the parking brake when you come to a full stop and if start/stop is engaged, it doesn’t start the engine by taking your foot off the brake pedal, requiring a press of the throttle.  The engine will still start up again if the car in front moves off, but the GTI won’t crawl forwards until you press the throttle.

On balance I quite like not having to sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (I’ve never been one to use the handbrake for anything other than parking up) so I’ll keep Hold Assist switched on.

On the flip side of this, I was trying out driving without the auto hold, all was well and good until I parked on my dad's inclined driveway. Put the car into park, which I assumed would apply the handbrake, but as I took my foot off the brake the car rolled backwards a few inches before settling! That was unnerving. Quickly manually applied the handbrake then. I guess I don't really understand the e-brake at all. What is the point?

[Jim_mk7.5]

Agree with this.  Crawlers really bug me.

I’ve had my GTI 3 months and only just realised how Hold Assist works. I’d always wondered why you’d need such a thing with a DSG because it’ll never roll back on a hill while in drive anyway so I intentionally left it switched off.

Anyhow, I accidentally engaged it last weekend  and discovered it automatically applies the parking brake when you come to a full stop and if start/stop is engaged, it doesn’t start the engine by taking your foot off the brake pedal, requiring a press of the throttle.  The engine will still start up again if the car in front moves off, but the GTI won’t crawl forwards until you press the throttle.

On balance I quite like not having to sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (I’ve never been one to use the handbrake for anything other than parking up) so I’ll keep Hold Assist switched on.

Technically, I don't think AH applies the full parking brake as such as it doesn't make the same whirring noise on and off as it does when you turn the engine off to park or apply the brake manually. Must be a 'light' version to stop you creeping and allow you to move off quickly.

[Watts]

I've found the autohold excellent, it's left switched on and I don't have to touch it or the electronic handbrake. It might function differently with mine being a manual. Far exceeded my expectations which tbh, were rather low before I tried it. Going back to a car with a mechanical handbrake now would be rather tedious!

[Jim_mk7.5]

I've found the autohold excellent, it's left switched on and I don't have to touch it or the electronic handbrake. It might function differently with mine being a manual. Far exceeded my expectations which tbh, were rather low before I tried it. Going back to a car with a mechanical handbrake now would be rather tedious!

Unless you want to do some handbrake turns.... 

[dubber36]

Tell me about it! Suppose I could turn it off. It’s such a great feature though. Just need to teach people to pull up to lights etc properly. 

It is good practice to pull up a couple of car lengths short of the back of a queue until you have a couple more vehicles have stopped behind you. Providing you are keeping an eye in your mirror, you'll have some room to move into should a following car be bearing down on you with smoke poring off all four locked wheels.

[Jim_mk7.5]

Tell me about it! Suppose I could turn it off. It’s such a great feature though. Just need to teach people to pull up to lights etc properly. 

It is good practice to pull up a couple of car lengths short of the back of a queue until you have a couple more vehicles have stopped behind you. Providing you are keeping an eye in your mirror, you'll have some room to move into should a following car be bearing down on you with smoke poring off all four locked wheels.

Agreed, this always good practice. Although most drivers wouldn't notice the car approaching from behind anyway as they are normally busy staring down at their phone, sorry I mean looking at their lap.

[Talk-torque]

Agree with this.  Crawlers really bug me.

I’ve had my GTI 3 months and only just realised how Hold Assist works. I’d always wondered why you’d need such a thing with a DSG because it’ll never roll back on a hill while in drive anyway so I intentionally left it switched off.

Anyhow, I accidentally engaged it last weekend  and discovered it automatically applies the parking brake when you come to a full stop and if start/stop is engaged, it doesn’t start the engine by taking your foot off the brake pedal, requiring a press of the throttle.  The engine will still start up again if the car in front moves off, but the GTI won’t crawl forwards until you press the throttle.

On balance I quite like not having to sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (I’ve never been one to use the handbrake for anything other than parking up) so I’ll keep Hold Assist switched on.

On the flip side of this, I was trying out driving without the auto hold, all was well and good until I parked on my dad's inclined driveway. Put the car into park, which I assumed would apply the handbrake, but as I took my foot off the brake the car rolled backwards a few inches before settling! That was unnerving. Quickly manually applied the handbrake then. I guess I don't really understand the e-brake at all. What is the point?

Dodgy thing to do! Park locks the transmission by engaging a pin in a slot. The pin slot arrangement is not made to stand shock loads.

[sjw]

Agree with this.  Crawlers really bug me.

I’ve had my GTI 3 months and only just realised how Hold Assist works. I’d always wondered why you’d need such a thing with a DSG because it’ll never roll back on a hill while in drive anyway so I intentionally left it switched off.

Anyhow, I accidentally engaged it last weekend  and discovered it automatically applies the parking brake when you come to a full stop and if start/stop is engaged, it doesn’t start the engine by taking your foot off the brake pedal, requiring a press of the throttle.  The engine will still start up again if the car in front moves off, but the GTI won’t crawl forwards until you press the throttle.

On balance I quite like not having to sit at traffic lights with my foot on the brake (I’ve never been one to use the handbrake for anything other than parking up) so I’ll keep Hold Assist switched on.

On the flip side of this, I was trying out driving without the auto hold, all was well and good until I parked on my dad's inclined driveway. Put the car into park, which I assumed would apply the handbrake, but as I took my foot off the brake the car rolled backwards a few inches before settling! That was unnerving. Quickly manually applied the handbrake then. I guess I don't really understand the e-brake at all. What is the point?

Dodgy thing to do! Park locks the transmission by engaging a pin in a slot. The pin slot arrangement is not made to stand shock loads.

I understand it's dodgy, that's why my post implied I didn't KNOW that was going to happen. What I don't get is why the e-brake isn't just tied to the gear select - why isn't it just applied when you put the car into park? I'm struggling to think of occasions where you'd want the car in park but with the handbrake off, or in drive with the handbrake on

[Mutley75]

If AH is on, and you select P AND switch off the ignition, the parking brake is then applied automatically.