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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #60 on: 11 June 2019, 13:44 »
The reduction in the Reifnitz Performance Pack by £300 was deliberate as it would take any purchaser immediately over the £40,000 at the original £2400 pricing - its likely the most popular pack and if select the next one up its obviously now seen as accepted you be breaking the £40,000

If want to protect that £40,000 threshold the only option left if selecting the Reifnitz would be the 90% tints, anything over £235 will break that limit
Not true. The £40k+ luxury tax is calculated on the List/RRP before OTR costs. The TCR has OTR costs of £1220, so a TCR can't exceed £41,220 OTR if the buyer wants to avoid the luxury tax. A MY20 TCR + the Reifnitz Pack is £39,765 on the Road (according to DTD), there's so still some wiggle room to add a few more options such as paint and Dynaudio.

Did not know that, so thanks for clarifying - Seems strange they dropped the Reifnitz pack by £300 then considering they put most other things up, so maybe it was just to give back a little and still keep the price just under the £40,000 which despite it not being the actual ceiling from what you stated is still a landmark figure that makes you think about just how much spending - so a psychological ceiling lets call it :)

Anyway spin it now, its a game changer for the TCR as you must really want that exhaust to look past an R now at £1500 saving
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #61 on: 11 June 2019, 13:58 »
I have two VW price lists for the Golf. One is from 1st April and the other dated 23rd May. In both price lists the Reifnitz Performance Pack is £2,100.

The VW configurator is notoriously unreliable for providing accurate information.
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #62 on: 11 June 2019, 14:02 »
Thats going to make the TCR a hard sell against the R, that is unless the R also gets an Akra as standard and equivalent price rise?



Week 29 is circa July 15th so imagine mine is after given October delivery

Could also mean build slots running down and this cools flow but still likely enough orders to complete the run

Assume your October delivery is what you requested to fall in line with replacing your current car?
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #63 on: 11 June 2019, 14:07 »
Thats going to make the TCR a hard sell against the R, that is unless the R also gets an Akra as standard and equivalent price rise?



Week 29 is circa July 15th so imagine mine is after given October delivery

Could also mean build slots running down and this cools flow but still likely enough orders to complete the run

Assume your October delivery is what you requested to fall in line with replacing your current car?

Yes, 25th October is the delivery date and return of the R (though each year its always been a week or so earlier, so expect it to be ready 10th onward)
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- 2019 Pure Grey GTI TCR 5 Door DSG Reifinitz Wheel DCC Climate Screen 90% Tint
- 2016 Lapiz Blue Golf R 5 Door DSG Pretoria DCC
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #64 on: 11 June 2019, 14:09 »
Thats going to make the TCR a hard sell against the R, that is unless the R also gets an Akra as standard and equivalent price rise?



Week 29 is circa July 15th so imagine mine is after given October delivery

Could also mean build slots running down and this cools flow but still likely enough orders to complete the run

Assume your October delivery is what you requested to fall in line with replacing your current car?

Yes, 25th October is the delivery date and return of the R (though each year its always been a week or so earlier, so expect it to be ready 10th onward)

Not sure I'd be able to wait that long!!
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #65 on: 11 June 2019, 14:22 »
Thats going to make the TCR a hard sell against the R, that is unless the R also gets an Akra as standard and equivalent price rise?


Week 29 is circa July 15th so imagine mine is after given October delivery

Could also mean build slots running down and this cools flow but still likely enough orders to complete the run

Assume your October delivery is what you requested to fall in line with replacing your current car?

Yes, 25th October is the delivery date and return of the R (though each year its always been a week or so earlier, so expect it to be ready 10th onward)

Not sure I'd be able to wait that long!!

Actually found myself having a new appreciation for the R and its been quite painless, the wait from the GTD to the R? now that was a painful wait as despite how capable the GTD was and how much appreciated it, the R is obviously something completely different :)

Due to the sometimes issue with lead times we get quite an early view of system so can make decision and imagine some dither for ages and take it to cut off date, I was pretty much clear on the MK 7.5 R being the next one up, and though changed that to the TCR it was still a relatively quick decision - downside of this is usually is its a long wait - the upside on this occasion is that quite sad to see the R go and have been enjoying driving it again with that thinking - we off on a 7 day road trip soon for more farewell miles.

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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #66 on: 11 June 2019, 15:30 »
Thinking an '18 R could be on my next car list as looking to opt out of having a company car.
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #67 on: 11 June 2019, 15:46 »
Thinking an '18 R could be on my next car list as looking to opt out of having a company car.

Its a decision cannot get wrong, I would happily keep this 66 plate R and despite it having some unwanted car park attention, it's never once been in for any mechanical work, drives better than it ever has, and whoever picks up at auction will be getting a really good deal.

In general the R is such a great car - forget the finite critique that some bring to the table, its just a car that allows you not to compromise performance for comfort, some cars might do the extremes better, but none do both so well. its the consummate daily performance car.

Know its relative but when have the correct conditions to open its legs its truly rapid, more than enough for any road in UK, and completely planted which is its own characteristic thats fun to me - expect the TCR to replicate the rapid and just have a lighter feel.

It was only the last minute arrival of the TCR that swayed me, the R had already seen off the opposition such as the new A35 AMG that I looked at.

This TCR might be my keeper if the next 3 years goes well with it and I might opt out of the company lease and take the money.

Forget the popularity of the R on the road, it means there will be lots of clean ones out there so just take time sourcing one. (VWROC forum has a classified and most are members who sale)

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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #68 on: 11 June 2019, 16:19 »


Thinking an '18 R could be on my next car list as looking to opt out of having a company car.

Its a decision cannot get wrong, I would happily keep this 66 plate R and despite it having some unwanted car park attention, it's never once been in for any mechanical work, drives better than it ever has, and whoever picks up at auction will be getting a really good deal.

In general the R is such a great car - forget the finite critique that some bring to the table, its just a car that allows you not to compromise performance for comfort, some cars might do the extremes better, but none do both so well. its the consummate daily performance car.

Know its relative but when have the correct conditions to open its legs its truly rapid, more than enough for any road in UK, and completely planted which is its own characteristic thats fun to me - expect the TCR to replicate the rapid and just have a lighter feel.

It was only the last minute arrival of the TCR that swayed me, the R had already seen off the opposition such as the new A35 AMG that I looked at.

This TCR might be my keeper if the next 3 years goes well with it and I might opt out of the company lease and take the money.

Forget the popularity of the R on the road, it means there will be lots of clean ones out there so just take time sourcing one. (VWROC forum has a classified and most are members who sale)



Thanks for the info.

I love the GTI P but the lightness you mention is definitely noticeable but haven't driven an R so can't compare. The TCR will be rapid - I'm often surprised at the progress you can make along the roads (Peak District) near me and in most circumstances, it's as quick as you need to or can be going. With an extra 40 horses that mid-range will be even more noticeable. Low-speed traction is a problem, especially on days like today and setting off requires a lighter right foot. Once moving there are no real issues.

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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #69 on: 11 June 2019, 17:11 »


Thinking an '18 R could be on my next car list as looking to opt out of having a company car.

Its a decision cannot get wrong, I would happily keep this 66 plate R and despite it having some unwanted car park attention, it's never once been in for any mechanical work, drives better than it ever has, and whoever picks up at auction will be getting a really good deal.

In general the R is such a great car - forget the finite critique that some bring to the table, its just a car that allows you not to compromise performance for comfort, some cars might do the extremes better, but none do both so well. its the consummate daily performance car.

Know its relative but when have the correct conditions to open its legs its truly rapid, more than enough for any road in UK, and completely planted which is its own characteristic thats fun to me - expect the TCR to replicate the rapid and just have a lighter feel.

It was only the last minute arrival of the TCR that swayed me, the R had already seen off the opposition such as the new A35 AMG that I looked at.

This TCR might be my keeper if the next 3 years goes well with it and I might opt out of the company lease and take the money.

Forget the popularity of the R on the road, it means there will be lots of clean ones out there so just take time sourcing one. (VWROC forum has a classified and most are members who sale)



Thanks for the info.

I love the GTI P but the lightness you mention is definitely noticeable but haven't driven an R so can't compare. The TCR will be rapid - I'm often surprised at the progress you can make along the roads (Peak District) near me and in most circumstances, it's as quick as you need to or can be going. With an extra 40 horses that mid-range will be even more noticeable. Low-speed traction is a problem, especially on days like today and setting off requires a lighter right foot. Once moving there are no real issues.

Had not considered the GTI at all, it was another R or the A35 AMG that was in the head to head it was only that the TCR had the now well known lifts and fact the GTI was on the itch to scratch list with its heritage that swung me - heart over head really given how highly think of the R, of which if you go that direction you will see how consummately assured it is delivering that power to the tarmac.

Had a GTD which had terrible tramping issues till changed out the tyres and even then you had to feather your start so realise there is compromise in dropping the AWD but hoping the equal pace once moving, the lightness and the overall package will give me that feeling of driving something special, that the R does (do not look over at much and think I would like that unless much higher up food chain)





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- 2nd car: 2019 Golf R DSG Pure White 19" Black Pretoria, Privacy Glass, Rear View Camera, Dynaudio, Keyless
- 2019 Pure Grey GTI TCR 5 Door DSG Reifinitz Wheel DCC Climate Screen 90% Tint
- 2016 Lapiz Blue Golf R 5 Door DSG Pretoria DCC
- 2013 Pure White GTD 5 Door DSG DCC