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Re: MY19 GTI Manual - Engine Intermittently Cutting Out
« Reply #30 on: 08 September 2019, 11:11 »
Another update on the now concluded saga of the on-going problem with my stalling GTI manual...

After rejecting my original Golf GTI manual (now over 5 months old) on 13/8/19 I picked up my new Golf GTI DSG on Friday afternoon.  So despite a 4 day delay due to the WLTP/RDE problem, it's still only taken 3.5 weeks for the rejection to be accepted and to pickup the new one.

I'll summarise the main things below - apologies for the length - it's definitely a summary but I guess you may be interested in some of the details:

* Due to a cool spring and not using the car very much the stalling problem didn't re-occur again till early July and it was taken into the supplying dealer on 22/7.  I've been supplied with a couple of loan cars since then.
* The dealer has been able to consistently replicate the problem even in cooler weather but only by driving it hard to get the engine temperature up.  They also noticed an occasional problem with the gear shift indicator not showing the correct gear
* They found a sporadic Neutral position fault and swapped over the sensor but it didn't help
* The problem was escalated to VW by the dealer and after various tests of fuel, checks for remapping, trackers, etc VW asked for the engine speed sensor to be changed but it made no difference
* On 7/8 I escalated to VW directly including to one of their directors to ask for their responses to be quickened and I spoke to them the next day when they confirmed that they didn't know what the problem was but that they were confident the fault would be found, and could possibly send one of their engineers to check it or ship the car down to their own workshop
* Later on the 8/8 VW asked for the camshaft actuator to be changed which again made no difference
* On the 12/8 I was told VW had asked that the oil sump be removed and that "swarf or metal filings" had been found there and in the oil.  VW then asked for the oil to be refilled and the car tested again, and if swarf was found again then the camshafts would have to be replaced
* It was at that point that I made an appointment to see the dealer Business Manager of the dealer and formally rejected the car as I didn't want a car that I had wanted to keep long term to have a potentially serious engine problem which could cause problems after the warranty ended
* Following a lot of really great work by the Business Manager, VW quickly accepted the rejection and then the dealer located a new DSG car that they had in stock.  So in the end I paid the extra for the DSG but the car came with Santiago Wheels, Dynaudio and 90% tinted windows which, in effect, I didn't have to pay for so a great deal and some compensation for the hassle
* Despite the negative sentiment I've read about the attitude of VW when people have problems and the difficulty in getting them to accept rejections, I must say that VW have also been very helpful throughout.

I genuinely have nothing but praise for the dealer, JCT600 York, who not only gave me a great deal when I purchased the car but have done absolutely everything they could have done quickly and professionally throughout the whole saga and then for them to find me a replacement so quickly was great - I would most definitely recommend them.
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Re: MY19 GTI Manual - Engine Intermittently Cutting Out
« Reply #31 on: 08 September 2019, 14:40 »
How are you finding your new car?   :smiley:
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Re: MY19 GTI Manual - Engine Intermittently Cutting Out
« Reply #32 on: 08 September 2019, 17:27 »
I agree about jct600. Bought mine from Bradford and had such a positive experience my old man bought a gti from their dealer in hull. And i know he would deffo recommend them as well.  Glad it went so well. Ive been lucky enough to never have issues with any dealer. Maybe im just lucky  :whistle: but bonus with getting extra on the car u didn't have to pay for  :cool:
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Re: MY19 GTI Manual - Engine Intermittently Cutting Out
« Reply #33 on: 08 September 2019, 19:13 »
The car's great and I think I'm now a convert to DSG having always had manuals - it also seem a little faster than the manual I had - maybe a consequence of its engine problem...  I'm impressed by the gearshifts which are extremely smooth and I haven't noticed any of the problems I sometimes read about with DSG.
The second loan car was an almost new GTD (very impressed with it) so I got used to the automatic gearbox before I got the new GTI.

I can certainly now comment on the questions I sometimes read about 19 inch wheels without DCC and also Dynaudio compared to the standard system...

I was a little concerned when I got the spec of the new car showing the 19 inch wheels as I had been so impressed by the ride on my previous Golf with the standard 18 inch Parker wheels.  The ride and road noise on the bigger wheels (with Pirelli P zero tyres) is worse than the 18 inch ones but still in my opinion perfectly acceptable - I notice it more as a passenger than as a driver.  Having said that, my other car is a BMW z4 e85 with runflats and the ride on that definitely isn't good!  The wheels look great so overall I'm very happy with them.

Regarding the Dynaudio, it's early days yet (probably need more fiddly around with the settings) and I know speakers also need to be run in, but I'm not that impressed and if I'd paid for it then I'd be disappointed as doesn't seem that much better than the standard setup for how I use it (mainly radio on low volume).  However, when louder it does sound better and more powerful.  Also it's not that expensive compared to some of systems in high-end cars.

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Re: MY19 GTI Manual - Engine Intermittently Cutting Out
« Reply #34 on: 09 September 2019, 09:01 »
Its still very curious that they couldn't find the answer.

I'd have thought that with very computer driven drive mechanisms that the answer should be fairly obvious, but clearly not.

I am glad though that you've had a good effective response and that you are rollin' again.

As you had a GTD and a GTI in so many weeks, any thoughts on one vs the other?
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