New car order delays

[Adam T7]

Did anybody notice the 6sp manual gti is 155g/km and the dsg 143g/km as far as I'm aware this means the first year tax on the manual will shoot up to £500

Looks that way, £205 first year for the DSG. Subsequent years at £155.
Considering I’m paying £546 PA on my current car, I’m pretty happy.

[Dre1973]

DSG for me as well so all good. Not as big a saving for me coming from a mk5 gti but the difference covers the increase in insurance

[Deano07]

I thought it was only on cars over £40.000. That's how l got stung on my S4 17 Saloon

[Dre1973]

It's even more if it over £40k

[Dre1973]

Just looked it up. It's an extra £310 a year for 5 years if the car rrp is over £40k.

[Deano07]

Aye. That's what l pay for the S4 for the next 3 years. What a f.....g disgrace

[fredgroves]

Did anybody notice the 6sp manual gti is 155g/km and the dsg 143g/km as far as I'm aware this means the first year tax on the manual will shoot up to £500

Those are the figures from the VW website and its not clear if they are WLTP figures or NEDC ones...

And yes, first year's road tax is based on Co2:

111 - 130    £165
131 - 150    £205
151 - 170    £515

Big jump for going sub 150 to 151... even more further up the toxic scale.

But that's just first year, after that its the same for all engines.... unless your vehicle is over 40k *list* price, in which case its an extra £310 years 2-5 *on top of* the normal rate. Its also payable on second hand cars that are less than 5 years old that originally cost more than 40k...

[Dre1973]

Did anybody notice the 6sp manual gti is 155g/km and the dsg 143g/km as far as I'm aware this means the first year tax on the manual will shoot up to £500

Those are the figures from the VW website and its not clear if they are WLTP figures or NEDC ones...

And yes, first year's road tax is based on Co2:

111 - 130    £165
131 - 150    £205
151 - 170    £515

Big jump for going sub 150 to 151... even more further up the toxic scale.

But that's just first year, after that its the same for all engines.... unless your vehicle is over 40k *list* price, in which case its an extra £310 years 2-5 *on top of* the normal rate. Its also payable on second hand cars that are less than 5 years old that originally cost more than 40k...

I was going on the presumption that the manual was under the 150 threshold  before the configurator for the gti was taken offline and now it's over the threshold now it's back online.

[fredgroves]

I was going on the presumption that the manual was under the 150 threshold  before the configurator for the gti was taken offline and now it's over the threshold now it's back online.

I am sure the manual used to be 148g/km but the new WLTP tests cane manuals because of the way they test them, whereas DSG can be gamed a little (yes, we're back to manufacturers playing around for test conditions... not just for testing, but definitely setting things up for test passing).

I should think you feel a bit annoyed about that, but in theory the price you've agreed is an on the road price, so it shouldn't make you out of pocket.

Plus, the extra cost for DSG still isn't offset by the road tax savings in year one...

[Deano07]

The pp is 148 according to the website so ok