Just as wagons were becoming palatable to me...

[Watts]

Ok to illustrate my point:

T-Roc 1.5tsi DSG R-Line - 124g/km co2
Golf 1.5tsi DSG R-Line - 114g/km co2

Now 10 grams here and 10 there isn't much but if you scale that up.... its a 9% increase in co2 output.

Careful now, most of us on here drive cars with unnecessarily high co2 figures. You'll have us all in VW up!s before you know it.....

[fredgroves]

My point isn't that some people chose a vehicle with more co2.... its that when the bulk of the population chose to abandon a more efficient design in favour of a less efficient one, the knock on effect is a considerable rise in co2.

If everyone was to come here, listen to us loving performance Golfs and buy one, that would be bad too!

But that's not true, most chose a "sensible" engine, which should be low pollution, except now the SUV wave is having a dramatic overall effect.

Here you go:

https://www.transportenvironment.org/newsroom/blog/rise-uk-car-co2-emissions-largely-result-increasing-suv-sales-not-declining-diesel

[ar899]

SUVs are also a nuisance on the road. Can't see round then, can't see through them (unless of course you're in an SUV yourself) and they park too close to you in car parks. Nothing against those who genuinely need one such as farmers though.

And as an aside, Merc 'G' drivers really do get my goat with their aggressive driving - seem to have overtaken Audi estate drivers.

Sorry, rant over (for now...)

[Watts]

Who needs an SUV anyway?

[dubber36]

SUVs are also a nuisance on the road. Can't see round then, can't see through them (unless of course you're in an SUV yourself) and they park too close to you in car parks.

Can you see through a Golf with privacy glass? That's besides the point. Why do you need to see through it? And if you can't see round it, you're following too close you knob cheese. I won't park too close to you in a car park, I'll be at the far end, miles from anyone else.

[ar899]

Thank you for your polite response drubber. I don't follow too close to anyone. I'm talking about approaching junctions, roundabouts etc. where you have said SUV to your right. They restrict the view of other traffic, cyclists etc. Also, in queues of traffic they restrict your view ahead, lights.

By the tone of your response, sounds like you're not that bothered about looking out for others though anyway. Don't have happen to drive a Merc 'G' do you?

[dubber36]

No. as I said earlier, I drive an Amarok considerately and have a Tiguan as the runabout car. Oh, and a little Golf GTI for the odd spirited drive.

If you can't see past the vehicle to your side at a junction, wait until it's moved out of the way. You might have to wait a bit longer, but so what? Does it really matter? If you're are in a queue of traffic at the lights behind a larger vehicle, you don't really need to see if the lights have gone green or not. You can't go anywhere until he has moved anyway.

Keep em coming. I can keep this up all day.

[ar899]

Love to pal, but some of us have work to do

[kalimon]

Who needs an SUV anyway?

Awesome picture

[dubber36]

Love to pal, but some of us have work to do

Yeah, good point. I need to earn some money for my next £105 fill up