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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #10 on: 09 February 2018, 16:39 »
Thanks for the advice guys.
My insurance is up for renewal at the weekend so just thought it would be too much hassle in case I ended up changing companies.

I had a look on the German ebay but I'd be too worried they were copies and would have to fork out more money. I've just ordered a new Pret at the bargain price of £787  :shocked:

There definitely was oil on the roundabout  :laugh: I've slipped at it before going the other way but do admit I could have been going slower so all my own fault. Plus my front tyres aren't the best. What a difference when the fronts are worn on a 4 wheel drive compared to 2 wheel drive.

I totally get the radar might have to be checked but it seems strange they wouldn't allow a few mm tolerance built in when thats all the rear is likely to be out by.

@Mikea how did you know the wheel bearing had went? Was it grumbling?


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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #11 on: 09 February 2018, 18:14 »
You might not have any issues with the radar but it's something to watch out for.
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #12 on: 10 February 2018, 11:09 »
Thanks for the advice guys.
My insurance is up for renewal at the weekend so just thought it would be too much hassle in case I ended up changing companies.

I had a look on the German ebay but I'd be too worried they were copies and would have to fork out more money. I've just ordered a new Pret at the bargain price of £787  :shocked:

There definitely was oil on the roundabout  :laugh: I've slipped at it before going the other way but do admit I could have been going slower so all my own fault. Plus my front tyres aren't the best. What a difference when the fronts are worn on a 4 wheel drive compared to 2 wheel drive.

I totally get the radar might have to be checked but it seems strange they wouldn't allow a few mm tolerance built in when thats all the rear is likely to be out by.

@Mikea how did you know the wheel bearing had went? Was it grumbling?

Yup, grumbling from that side, hoped it was just the tyre causing the noise with the sidewall damage but the new tyre had the same noise.

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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #13 on: 10 February 2018, 23:41 »
Ooops! Sorry to see that Stevie  :sad:
What a crap thing to have happen.

I’m a bit late to the party here but how about getting the car up on the ramps of a trusted MOT station to check for obvious visible damage and then get it to a respected wheel alignment specialist if all appears well.
Unless there’s obvious expensive damage it’s not worth the hassle of an insurance claim.

A few years ago VW dealers were being encouraged by VW to invest in state of the art wheel alignment gear but that sort of equipment needs someone well trained and experienced using it, not the work experience kid.
A good MOT tester would/should see pretty much everything a £1700 VW inspection would for an hours labour charge!
The radar will only need recalibration if there’s significant damage in which case it’s likely an insurance job anyway. If just a few settings have been knocked out of place (assuming the wheel absorbed most of the impact) then a good 4 wheel alignment will put everything back to factory settings.

It’s usually more viable to buy a set of Prets than a second hand single. If you pick up a set for say £1k, add in a refurb to one or two then keep two (one on the car and one spare) and sell the other two as singles on eBay or VWROC.

I hope it all pans out ok Stevie
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #14 on: 11 February 2018, 00:00 »
Thanks Andy, some good advice there especially with the prets. Unfortunately I couldn't see any sets and could only see singles around the £500 mark. I didn't think it was worth the gamble so ordered a new one  :shocked:
I managed to get 10% off the wheel so I suppose thats something.

It will also teach me not to let the font tyres wear as much before doing something about them. An expensive lesson all the same  :cry: :cry: 
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #15 on: 11 February 2018, 00:15 »
It’s not so much the wear at this time of year unless it’s particularly wet, more the low adhesion of the rubber in the colder temps coupled with the competence of the R chassis leading you into a sense of security that can vanish very suddenly.
As you say, at least you’ll know the replacement wheel is brand new.
I wonder if the damaged one could be repaired enough to keep as an emergency spare?
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #16 on: 11 February 2018, 17:55 »
It’s not so much the wear at this time of year unless it’s particularly wet, more the low adhesion of the rubber in the colder temps coupled with the competence of the R chassis leading you into a sense of security that can vanish very suddenly.
Hasn't happened to me yet? :wink: Not even close, seems to be a lot scare mongering by some, regarding ambient temperatures. These are road cars not F1 with tyres light years ahead of motors i've driven over the years, which did not install over confidence and honed driving skills :wink: I haven't approached the limit in the wet and frankly doubt I will?
Haven't fathomed how OP got into that situation in the first place unless avoiding something/one?
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #17 on: 11 February 2018, 18:19 »
If you read the original post it was oil on the road. Any summer tyre like we get in the UK will stop working effectively or less effectively than it would in the summer below 7° which is common knowledge and not scare mongering.
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #18 on: 11 February 2018, 20:00 »
If you read the original post it was oil on the road. Any summer tyre like we get in the UK will stop working effectively or less effectively than it would in the summer below 7° which is common knowledge and not scare mongering.
You inferring a winter tyre wouldn't slide on oil. haha! Naff all copes with oil.
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Re: Smacked my alloy could I have damaged the suspension geometry?
« Reply #19 on: 12 February 2018, 00:59 »
Definitely oil on the roundabout coupled with what Andy (Exonian) has said about the R leading me into a false sense of security.

There was a car on the inside so I was taking the outside lane and just went sideways.

The R definitely is sure footed but I think when things go wrong they can go wrong disastrously as it can't defy the law of physics  :grin: although at times I think it makes you feel it can.   
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