Golf GTI or the R

[dubber36]

Just let it lie ladies 

[brettblade]

The insurance is due on my GTi PP, I ran the renewal quote for an R that is 2 years younger than my car.
Obviously the value of the R was higher, I was surprised to see the quote only £8 higher for the R with the same driver details as the base for calculation.

I appreciate we all have different profiles, but I was surprised how reasonable the quote for the R is considering the increase in bhp and apparent desirability from thieves.

I found the same.  GTI, GTI PP, R and the S3 were all within about £40 of each other.  Leon Cupra 290 was £400+ more!

[CHB100]

You're just proving scanesare's point there - you're focusing on just the advantages in pulling away from a standing start. When you say "my lady's GTI would struggle", I agree - yes it would, but only at pulling away and your R would be equally as bad at stopping or cornering (assuming an even/trailing throttle - if you're booting it, you shouldn't be out in those conditions).

You are wasting your breath. Lots of us have tried to explain this simple concept to CHB100. He is NEVER going to understand it.

For me being able to have traction on a slippery slope and on the flat to gain momentum is the most IIMPORTANT FACT. While others with 2WD spin 240 horses without progress.
Once on the road I still feel more confident in The knowledge that I’m less likely to get stuck! Albeit similar both may be in gentle driving in icy conditions.
Friend I do have both to try in those conditions so is my true experience and not garnered from hearsay
Also you seem to think I am claiming something I am not to the point of boredom.
Please come and have a test in mine in such conditions in said situations or any come to that.
I won’t bother with rolleyes.

Dearie me you boys still don't get. So you don't think
To repeat to OP if you can afford all incurred costs buy an R over anything else.

Surely the most important thing is to have traction to lose momentum, not gain it?

The disadvantages of not gaining momentum are simply time - the disadvantages of not losing momentum could be time, money and lives.

As has been said - you're obviously blinkered in your opinion and not open to others viewpoints so I'll probably leave it there. I'm off to push a double decker bus up a 1 in 4 hill on my own - it's probably easier than having a reasoned discussion with you.

If you don't gain momentum pal you don't go anywhere until a 4WD tows you out!

So you are saying a 2WD is as good or bad as a R in ALL situations, if not you agree with me. Blimey I can't get it between your ears can i, I wonder why
Still one day for sure you will hopefully get the chance to find out. As you seem to ignore my own experiences with silly juvenile comments.

[dubber36]

Jeeez, and I thought my Mrs always had to have the last word.

[Watts]

I wonder if the OP is any more enlightened.

Seems unlikely but on the plus side, with my feet up, a giant bag of popcorn and a cuppa it has been entertaining!

[scanesare]

Jeeez, and I thought my Mrs always had to have the last word.

   Well, at least the wife must be right sometimes? This guy's just fighting for his right to remain ignorant against an entire forum. At this point I think he either doesn't read or doesn't understand what people write to him, you can tell from the irrelevance of his replies, and I honestly don't know which is worse...

[GTI_Ant]

In terms of general handling (ignoring the AWD benefits), wouldn't the R have a slightly better front/rear weight distribution (I assume most of the additional 100Kg is in the rear diff/axle) and also a lower centre of gravity as the additional weight is under the floor?  These factors should combine to improve handling neutrality.  They are both great cars so just drive both and see which "feels" best.

[RAIDEN]

I wonder if the OP is any more enlightened.

Seems unlikely but on the plus side, with my feet up, a giant bag of popcorn and a cuppa it has been entertaining!

What have I started 

I'm still looking at those cars on Sat and hopefully try them both.  Heart says R brain says GTI PP

[Watts]

I wonder if the OP is any more enlightened.

Seems unlikely but on the plus side, with my feet up, a giant bag of popcorn and a cuppa it has been entertaining!

What have I started 

I'm still looking at those cars on Sat and hopefully try them both.  Heart says R brain says GTI PP

Go with your heart, you don't want to regret it.

[Daz Auto]

I wonder if the OP is any more enlightened.

Seems unlikely but on the plus side, with my feet up, a giant bag of popcorn and a cuppa it has been entertaining!

What have I started 

I'm still looking at those cars on Sat and hopefully try them both.  Heart says R brain says GTI PP

Yeah, topics like this easily turn into flame wars. That's why many Golf R drivers moved to the VWROC forum. You should try asking the same question over there. It would be interesting to see if you get a balanced response.

Sounds like your wife thinks you should buy an Golf R. Though I suppose you still have to pay for it.