Golf Replacement ??

[Daz Auto]

So we call it a T-rocco or a T-rocky?

Trok sounds like it belongs in Harry Potter or something.

I just did a google search - rocco is an adult film star.

Rocky is a chocolate bar, cartoon character and Sylvester Stallone. Apparently he was also an adult film star.

So I think we can rule those out. Now I have to delete my browsing history. 

[CHB100]

If I'm right the T-Roc interior is very similar to the new Polo, hate to put the frighteners on folks waiting for the Mark 8 Golf but maybe thats the current thinking and as it will already be at some sort of pre production stage I fear that a similar style interior and exterior btw (which is nice)is on the cards.
Maybe the Mk7 and 7.5 will be the last incarnation of a subtle/staid interior.

[Guzzle]

I actually don't mind the interior in the new Polo. The main problem with the T Roc interior is it seems to be made out of recycled Tupperware.

[Dr Mike Oxgreen]

The T-roc is an enigma - VW have put a lot of emphasis on building cars with "added value" in the form of perceived quality, particularly in what the journalists refer to as the "touch points" within the cabin.  To then produce a car which has attracted so many negative comments about the quality of the interior appears to be something of an own goal.  In my previous life I had some experience of what is referred to as "supply chain finance" and one of my specialisms was the Automotive sector.  Without knowing the finer details, I wonder if VW are sourcing interior fittings from lower down the supply food chain, and whether this might be indicative of a change of policy which will extend to other models.

And if this thread confirms anything, it's that the British car-buying public aspire towards bigger, more comfortable cars.  Which explains why it's so difficult to find anywhere to park these days which doesn't carry the threat of somebody opening their door into the side of my normal-sized Golf!

[Booth11]

delete please, wrong thread!

[fredgroves]

And if this thread confirms anything, it's that the British car-buying public aspire towards bigger, more comfortable cars.

Aspire maybe but the top ten best selling cars in the UK for 2017 contain only one SUV-  the Nissan Quashkai. The rest are Focus or Fiesta sized cars with the Merc C being the rep mobile of choice now.

[Dr Mike Oxgreen]

And if this thread confirms anything, it's that the British car-buying public aspire towards bigger, more comfortable cars.

Aspire maybe but the top ten best selling cars in the UK for 2017 contain only one SUV-  the Nissan Quashkai. The rest are Focus or Fiesta sized cars with the Merc C being the rep mobile of choice now.

Any UK-centric "Top 10 Best Selling Cars" list will be heavily weighted by the fleet market, to the extent of being a mere reflection of BIK values.  My point is that the average UK buyer (and they can be very average indeed) is easily swayed by fashion, and smallish lower-end SUV's such as the Cashcow are sold as accessories to an active, aspirational lifestyle, often advertised in the company of other stereotypical lifestyle accessories such as mountain bikes, kayaks etc.  They offer a higher than usual driving position to enable the lucky owner to look down upon the proletariat, and comfy seats.  So the buyer feels comfortable, and is able to feel protected due to the perceived solidity of the car thanks to chunky styling with large lumpy plastic bumpers at each end and the high driving position.

They also have high-profile tyres and chunky wheels.  Ideal for parking with two wheels on the pavement, which is the closest that most pseudo lifestyle SUV's will ever get to driving offroad.

[Booth11]

And if this thread confirms anything, it's that the British car-buying public aspire towards bigger, more comfortable cars.

Aspire maybe but the top ten best selling cars in the UK for 2017 contain only one SUV-  the Nissan Quashkai. The rest are Focus or Fiesta sized cars with the Merc C being the rep mobile of choice now.

Any UK-centric "Top 10 Best Selling Cars" list will be heavily weighted by the fleet market, to the extent of being a mere reflection of BIK values.  My point is that the average UK buyer (and they can be very average indeed) is easily swayed by fashion, and smallish lower-end SUV's such as the Cashcow are sold as accessories to an active, aspirational lifestyle, often advertised in the company of other stereotypical lifestyle accessories such as mountain bikes, kayaks etc.  They offer a higher than usual driving position to enable the lucky owner to look down upon the proletariat, and comfy seats.  So the buyer feels comfortable, and is able to feel protected due to the perceived solidity of the car thanks to chunky styling with large lumpy plastic bumpers at each end and the high driving position.

They also have high-profile tyres and chunky wheels.  Ideal for parking with two wheels on the pavement, which is the closest that most pseudo lifestyle SUV's will ever get to driving offroad.

Well said.

[Guzzle]

And if this thread confirms anything, it's that the British car-buying public aspire towards bigger, more comfortable cars.  Which explains why it's so difficult to find anywhere to park these days which doesn't carry the threat of somebody opening their door into the side of my normal-sized Golf!

Worth noting though that our normal sized Golf's aren't so normal sized anymore. Mine barely fits in my normal sized garage. These days if you want a normal sized Golf it's called a Polo. The parking problem isn't simply because of bigger and more comfortable cars, it's also a consequence of more cars on the road, combined with parking space dimensions that haven't increased in decades, people taking up two spaces when they could fit in one, and others making car journeys they don't really need to make by car.

My point is that the average UK buyer (and they can be very average indeed) is easily swayed by fashion, and smallish lower-end SUV's such as the Cashcow are sold as accessories to an active, aspirational lifestyle, often advertised in the company of other stereotypical lifestyle accessories such as mountain bikes, kayaks etc.  They offer a higher than usual driving position to enable the lucky owner to look down upon the proletariat, and comfy seats.  So the buyer feels comfortable, and is able to feel protected due to the perceived solidity of the car thanks to chunky styling with large lumpy plastic bumpers at each end and the high driving position.

They also have high-profile tyres and chunky wheels.  Ideal for parking with two wheels on the pavement, which is the closest that most pseudo lifestyle SUV's will ever get to driving offroad.

Why let these things bother you? Are they doing you that much harm? At the end of the day they're just another vehicle on the road. They pay their road tax, they buy their fuel and insurance and have just as much right to be there as the rest of us. Thoughtless driving and parking on kerbs is an issue, but that's not exclusive to SUV drivers.

[fredgroves]

Any UK-centric "Top 10 Best Selling Cars" list will be heavily weighted by the fleet market,

Really?

Ok, 2.54 million new vehicles registered in the UK, the Auto Express top ten accounts for 590,502 of them.... that's roughly 20% of the UK vehicle market.

As for Fleet numbers, looks like 44.68%  Private 51.46%  Fleet and 3.86%  business registrations in 2017.

I can't see that being skewed too much and besides in the top ten there are only a couple that might possibly be the big fleet vehicles (ie astras for BT engineers or cop cars etc).

BTW what did surprise me when looking at these numbers, fleet car registrations were UP in 2017, when HMRC have basically declared war on BIK.... very curious, all I can assume is that some people didn't do their homework!