Golf Replacement ??

[p3asa]

Over the Christmas holidays, we went into the local dealership just "browsing" for potential replacements for the GTD which will be changed towards the end of this year (just because we were in town and I was bored  )

I had already known that the next car would 100% be petrol after having 4 diesel VW's on the trot. I also wanted a change from a Golf as I've had 3 out of the last 4 cars as a Golf (and the 4th was a Scirocco).............

The thing with the current crop of Golfs for me is value for money.
When my wife's Audi A1 came up to be changed almost a couple of years ago now, she couldn't have cared less what she was driving but gave me a few must have stipulations.
Keyless, Heated seats and I think cruise.
I looked at all sorts of car. Kia, Audi, Ford, Seat, Skoda, Suzuki.
I drew up a spreadsheet of standard options, added options, fuel economy, likely insurance costs and cost of overall finance.
I really couldn't get anywhere near the value for money on the GTI and I wasn't even using man maths.
I would happily have got her a Kia or Suzuki if it met her needs.

I think that is a problem once you have had the GTI/GTD/R, you will initially struggle when going elsewhere especially if you like decent standard equipment.

[fredgroves]

Well, only VAG offer Automatic Cruise Control on a manual box... it was one of my main things that brought me back to another Golf...

[mcmaddy]

mcmaddy, for so many of your posts on here I have an image in my head of someone furiously banging on their keyboard in a state of constant anger and irritation. Mad as hell with the world with zero tolerance for the perceived idiocy all around him lol.

This is only in jest, so don't go taking it the wrong way 

It's probably the job I've got and who I deal with on a daily basis

[mcmaddy]

I'm not a badge snob in any way and I take your stupid comment about being convinced by you as total stupidity. I like the standard equipment I have on my gti pp and if you could get exactly the same but in the Octavia then I would as I love the size of the boot. Don't assume things about people you don't even know.

Well when I used the word 'you' i didn't mean 'you' personally, I meant people in general. But after reading back my post again I can now see how I gave you that impression and apologise.  It was Fred that mentioned the badge, so I thought it was a fair issue to mention it as it had already been raised. I can't say I always like the tone of some of the stuff posted on here, but i've somehow always tried my best to be as polite as possible. But no doubt some may think I deserved it.

I was merely making the point that the extra equipment you get on a VW over an Skoda isn't free, one has to pay for it with the higher price for what can often be a smaller car. Fine if you want all the extra kit and are willing to pay for it, or give up the extra space. But we all want different things and that's why VAG offer a choice.

My apologies Guzzle, case of writing without thinking 👍

[fredgroves]

And just to clarify, the badge was the minor niggle but certainly part of it... the size, the actual total cost of ownership and the treatment from the dealer was the main problem!

I'd already not been so put off that I was prepared to give Skoda and SEAT a look - because ultimately they are VAG just the same as Audi and VW.

If anything, paying over the odds for an Audi badge was more of an issue, when quite frankly, it wouldn't mean a jot to me.

[Guzzle]

I'm not a badge snob in any way and I take your stupid comment about being convinced by you as total stupidity. I like the standard equipment I have on my gti pp and if you could get exactly the same but in the Octavia then I would as I love the size of the boot. Don't assume things about people you don't even know.

Well when I used the word 'you' i didn't mean 'you' personally, I meant people in general. But after reading back my post again I can now see how I gave you that impression and apologise.  It was Fred that mentioned the badge, so I thought it was a fair issue to mention it as it had already been raised. I can't say I always like the tone of some of the stuff posted on here, but i've somehow always tried my best to be as polite as possible. But no doubt some may think I deserved it.

I was merely making the point that the extra equipment you get on a VW over an Skoda isn't free, one has to pay for it with the higher price for what can often be a smaller car. Fine if you want all the extra kit and are willing to pay for it, or give up the extra space. But we all want different things and that's why VAG offer a choice.

My apologies Guzzle, case of writing without thinking 👍

No worries, apology accepted and no hard feelings. 👍

Apologies also to Sootchucker for going so far off topic for so long. I mentioned the Karoq Sportline as my hope is that it will tick a lot of boxes for me wnen i move on from my own GTD after the disappointment of the T Roc interior, and the high price of the Tiguan. However I accept what suits me might not suit other people.

[mcmaddy]

For the first time in a good few cars owned I actually think I'll keep the GTi I've got. I only wish I'd bought one when I got the gtd in 2013. Might have saved me some cash 

[Guzzle]

And just to clarify, the badge was the minor niggle but certainly part of it... the size, the actual total cost of ownership and the treatment from the dealer was the main problem!

I'd already not been so put off that I was prepared to give Skoda and SEAT a look - because ultimately they are VAG just the same as Audi and VW.

If anything, paying over the odds for an Audi badge was more of an issue, when quite frankly, it wouldn't mean a jot to me.

I see what you are saying, and I actually agree mostly. I looked at all four as well, and drew similar conclusions. In the case of SEAT or Skoda vs VW the dilemma was whether the extra kit on the VW compensated for the extra cost. However in the case of the A3 I couldn't reconcile the more expensive car having less standard equipment. Nicer car certainly, but both the Octy and Golf were nice enough yet substantially less expensive after the Audi was specced up equally.

However I chose not to go PCP or cash as I didn't want to concern myself with interest rates or residuals. I wanted fixed price motoring at the lowest cost for most boxes ticked, so ended up leasing.

[Daz Auto]

I'm also going to take a wild guess that the T-Roc is built somewhere with a lower labour cost and production costs than the halo VW models. The old Scirocco factory maybe? The T-Roc is pretty much the niche model that takes over from the out of fashion coupe and has stolen both its name and wheel arch gaps.

I just realised that the T-Roc name comes from the discontinued Scirocco. Doh! I still think they could have picked a better name than 'Troc'. My wife thinks so too.

[fredgroves]

So we call it a T-rocco or a T-rocky?

Trok sounds like it belongs in Harry Potter or something.