Anyone else think the performance Golf's are getting a bit expensive ?

[JoeGTI]

In Ireland, a 5 door DSG R with metallic is a shade under 50k Euro. It's pretty well equipped as standard (a tad better than UK spec, e.g. 19's are standard), but if you tick a few of the pricey options you're well into the mid-high 50's easily...

A PP GTI is around 5.5k less, like for like.

However, VW are doing very competitive/aggressive finance deals on them here. You'll get an R on a 0.9% APR PCP deal and there's a deposit contribution also.

[gtiaps]

I know mines an older model being a 16 plate Gti non PP but when I specced mine I ad all the options except leather and PP that came out around the 35k + I shopped around with the unique code yout get told them what I was willing to pay without any movement on spec and got it for 28k from the place where we bought the wife's Scirocco from new in 2010 to me that was a good deal 

[Moro]

My spec was just under £35k before (a small) discount in 2013. That did not include PP or leather.

As I still own this car and intend to do so for a few years more the options were the ones I felt I wanted and I was not looking at depreciation too much.

The 7.5 has a lot more standard spec these days. I did another configuration when the 7.5 was released and the price increase seemed negligible once the improved discounts are taken into consideration.

[maxie]

spec a golf r-line. i thought i'd give it a go as i might need to swap my new 7.5 gti pp for one. and it was around 35k just 3k less than the gti...

Did you add all of the GTI standard options to it or just the ones you wanted?

When I looked before, it was more expensive to take a lesser model and add extras than to have the GTI/GTD...

(I know why you are doing it though)

yeah it was basically every option to get it to gti spec. same as i have just not the power

[Guzzle]

spec a golf r-line. i thought i'd give it a go as i might need to swap my new 7.5 gti pp for one. and it was around 35k just 3k less than the gti...

Did you add all of the GTI standard options to it or just the ones you wanted?

When I looked before, it was more expensive to take a lesser model and add extras than to have the GTI/GTD...

(I know why you are doing it though)

That's true.

I looked at the R Line, but by the time i'd added the GTi/GTD levels of kit it made very little sense to buy an R Line. That's without even considering the residual values.

[BobbyT]

I got 18% off list price on my R.... but yes, it's still expensive for a 'Golf'. Then again, for the performance I'd say its worth it. It has old RS4 type of pace.... And those cost a lot more when new. At least the Golf is cheaper to run than most the stuff it can keep up with. Just a Golf may have it's benefits 

[CHB100]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

The current Golf R is a snip particularly when discounted, if you have the cash to negotiate that is

[Guzzle]

It helps to keep these things in perspective, yes you can buy a comparable Ford Focus or similar for less money, however i'd imagine that isn't a car most people on here would find as desirable as their Golf. If I wanted to save money these days i'd be looking at a SEAT Leon or Skoda Octavia before i'd look at a Ford Focus.

There's no doubt prices have risen, but if one takes a long term view they haven't gone up any more than most other cars. My Mk2 Focus Zetec S had a list price of about £22k 7 years ago, and it felt a much cheaper product than the Mk5 Golf it replaced.

The Mk5 Golf GT by the way was a little over £18k back in 2004. That was a Drive The Deal discounted price including a few options. Inflation over the period since has averaged a shade under 3%, so that money today would be worth over £25k. Go on Drive The Deal today and you'd have no trouble getting a Mk7.5 GT for that money. In fact you could get a GTD or GTI for that money. So yes prices have risen, but the discounts on offer an the standard kit more than compensate for that in my view.

I think what some people don't realise is just how much they're spending on optional extras. £1700 for leather seats, £1k for bigger wheels, £1300 for an upgraded sat nav. Not to mention how much you can increase the price by adding lots of the 'cheaper' extras. Fine if you value those kind of things, and you're keeping it a long while. But to me that starts to erode the value for money you got with the standard car. But in the interests of balance, or if you have money to burn, look at the price of a similarly specced Audi A3.

Sad as it may be, having the cash to pay for it outright doesn't necessarily get you a better deal these days. It used to be the case, but not any more. Dealers are incentivised to get punters so sign up to finance deals. Hence they offer deposit contributions. Anyone that has used Carwow will know what I mean; the finance price is often lower than the cash price. The smart people with cash take the finance incentives and then settle straight away.

[king monkey]

I was quoted £481pm for an R with prets, paint and dsg on 4 yr PCP. Crazy. Doesn’t help when the GFV is below £13k.

[fredgroves]

I was quoted £481pm for an R with prets, paint and dsg on 4 yr PCP. Crazy. Doesn’t help when the GFV is below £13k.

Was that through Drive The Deal?

Sounds a bit out of whack... might be the 4 year thing doing that.

Whilst you are spreading the payments over 4 not 3 years, the GFV takes a massive dive after year 3.

Might be worth playing with those sliders on the finance tool.

On the other hand, you could ditch the wheels, paint and DSG and probably almost knock 20% off of the bill.