New gti

[2007GTI]

If it's a cost thing, I would personally drop those pointless options like dynaudio and art velours trim, and spec the PP in their place, as PP cars are more desirable second hand when you come to sell.

[fredgroves]

I'd not seen that comparison video before. Its interesting but I'd want to see that test done in manual vs manual because he's complaining about the dsg shift points, which probably could account for 1.6 seconds

I think you're a quite committed trackster, so probably your opinion on the value of the LSD is a good one worth listening to.

If you don't intend to track it though...

I know if it was me spec'ing the car though I'd be like....ooooh, ahhh, thousand quid... oooh..... oh go on, wtf. Which I think is how VW make another grand   And I'd probably never see the benefit at all, other than telling my mates about the fantastic LSD.

[scanesare]

I'd not seen that comparison video before. Its interesting but I'd want to see that test done in manual vs manual because he's complaining about the dsg shift points, which probably could account for 1.6 seconds

I think you're a quite committed trackster, so probably your opinion on the value of the LSD is a good one worth listening to.

If you don't intend to track it though...

I know if it was me spec'ing the car though I'd be like....ooooh, ahhh, thousand quid... oooh..... oh go on, wtf. Which I think is how VW make another grand   And I'd probably never see the benefit at all, other than telling my mates about the fantastic LSD.

I doubt there would be any time gains with a manual, the opposite seems more probable as the DSG shifts faster and smoother than any human driver can. It's not about the time, it's the allegedly reduced involvement feeling and some particularities of the down-shifts that people (including the guy in the video) are usually complaining about. For me at least being no pro, the DSG in manual mode works wonders on the track as I can grab the wheel better and focus more on my lines. There is also the thing that it doesn't upset the dynamics of the car half as much as a manual which I find beneficial, less load transfer, less stuff to worry about. Just my 2p.

With the diff sure you probably won't notice if you are just driving around town and religiously stick to the limits. But you don't need a track to exploit it either. A bit of open space with bends and it really comes into its own.

I totally get the "what I can leave out from the options list" point but retrospectively, I have quite a few items that I would now feel happy leaving out of my next car and they more than make up for the cost of the PP which I consider essential if you are to fully exploit the car as a driving machine.

[Daz Auto]

Tornado red , 5 door , dsg , art velour trim , dynaudio , rear camera , keyless , dynamic lights
I do about 6000 miles per year
Any logical reason for me to go for  GTi pp ?

The GTI Performance has an extra 15hp and 20nm of torque. This is not really going to be noticeable and just offsets the additional weight. So the power-to-weight ratio of the cars is roughly the same.

The brakes are upgraded and AFAIK are the same as the standard Golf R brakes. I do think this does make a difference. I'm not comparing like with like, but in my old car and our A3, I sometimes found the cars required extra pressure applied to stop exactly where I wanted. The GTI Performance brakes don't seem to require this extra modulation. They are very nice brakes to use.

The GTI Performance has red badges front and rear and because of the larger brake callipers there is room to print GTI on them. This is purely cosmetic.

Last, but definitely not least is the VAQ electronically controlled mechanical limited slip differential. Sometimes referred to as the VAQ diff or eLSD. It is early days for me, but I have already noticed how the traction and yaw dampening effect make the front of the car seem so planted when accelerating and/or cornering. It is a lot less twitchy than my last car.

[Watts]

I think this really boils down to 'want' over 'need'. I wanted it so that was easy, but have I ever benefitted from it? Driving wise almost certainly not but everytime I see the GTI logo on the brakes, money very well spent

[Daz Auto]

I think this really boils down to 'want' over 'need'. I wanted it so that was easy, but have I ever benefitted from it? Driving wise almost certainly not but everytime I see the GTI logo on the brakes, money very well spent

The GTI is a 'want' not a 'need'. Nobody needs 230-245 bhp for normal everyday driving

[Watts]

I think this really boils down to 'want' over 'need'. I wanted it so that was easy, but have I ever benefitted from it? Driving wise almost certainly not but everytime I see the GTI logo on the brakes, money very well spent

The GTI is a 'want' not a 'need'. Nobody needs 230-245 bhp for normal everyday driving

Indeed, and I wanted it.

[scanesare]

I think this really boils down to 'want' over 'need'. I wanted it so that was easy, but have I ever benefitted from it? Driving wise almost certainly not but everytime I see the GTI logo on the brakes, money very well spent

Oh and the red stripe across the front bumper no?? 

[Watts]

I think this really boils down to 'want' over 'need'. I wanted it so that was easy, but have I ever benefitted from it? Driving wise almost certainly not but everytime I see the GTI logo on the brakes, money very well spent

Oh and the red stripe across the front bumper no?? 

And the wheels despite the extra effort in cleaning

[mcmaddy]

PP is worth it alone if you are going standard wheels with the Bridgestones on. I've done nearly 10k miles in mine and not once have I scrabbled for grip or thought the tyres needed binning. Having the PP might explain why and before anyone says anything I don't drive like miss daisy.