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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: 29 May 2017, 12:48 »
I doubt the 7.5 FL has any impact on the already known consumption of these engines (unless just slight due to the new 7speed maybe). From my Clubsport experience (which has the same engine and turbo as the R but 100kg less) I'd say it's normal to hit 24-26 (my current 6,000 mile average is 25,8) with a mixed type of driving but anything above 30 requires the car to be driven in a clearly unpleasant fashion. Screen-shots don't speak the truth, I've seen 38-40 in mine but I was just on an economy exercise - nowhere near how I normally drive the car. I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Going back a couple of pages, OP you say that you didn't buy this car for economy but then 22 is almost boasting in everyday driving. Apart from self-contradicting what is the reference by which 22 is boasting? Usually you need to have one before you draw such conclusions and if you check other similar machinery you will realize the Golf doesn't really drink any worse than them.

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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #51 on: 29 May 2017, 14:36 »
I doubt the 7.5 FL has any impact on the already known consumption of these engines (unless just slight due to the new 7speed maybe). From my Clubsport experience (which has the same engine and turbo as the R but 100kg less) I'd say it's normal to hit 24-26 (my current 6,000 mile average is 25,8) with a mixed type of driving but anything above 30 requires the car to be driven in a clearly unpleasant fashion. Screen-shots don't speak the truth, I've seen 38-40 in mine but I was just on an economy exercise - nowhere near how I normally drive the car. I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Going back a couple of pages, OP you say that you didn't buy this car for economy but then 22 is almost boasting in everyday driving. Apart from self-contradicting what is the reference by which 22 is boasting? Usually you need to have one before you draw such conclusions and if you check other similar machinery you will realize the Golf doesn't really drink any worse than them.

I can see out context 22mpg is nothing to boast about but the way it was quoted by another almost inferred it something to be grateful for. I certainly don't think it is, that is in everyday driving unless maybe you travel 2miles in 50 mins that is or central London etc. No for me my rural area I will expect to get around 28 average with a mixture of driving in normal and sport.
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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #52 on: 29 May 2017, 14:57 »
I doubt the 7.5 FL has any impact on the already known consumption of these engines (unless just slight due to the new 7speed maybe). From my Clubsport experience (which has the same engine and turbo as the R but 100kg less) I'd say it's normal to hit 24-26 (my current 6,000 mile average is 25,8) with a mixed type of driving but anything above 30 requires the car to be driven in a clearly unpleasant fashion. Screen-shots don't speak the truth, I've seen 38-40 in mine but I was just on an economy exercise - nowhere near how I normally drive the car. I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Going back a couple of pages, OP you say that you didn't buy this car for economy but then 22 is almost boasting in everyday driving. Apart from self-contradicting what is the reference by which 22 is boasting? Usually you need to have one before you draw such conclusions and if you check other similar machinery you will realize the Golf doesn't really drink any worse than them.

I can see out context 22mpg is nothing to boast about but the way it was quoted by another almost inferred it something to be grateful for. I certainly don't think it is, that is in everyday driving unless maybe you travel 2miles in 50 mins that is or central London etc. No for me my rural area I will expect to get around 28 average with a mixture of driving in normal and sport.

If you are referring to the reference I (by whatever bizarre name you might wish to call me today) made to 22mpg (which is my average mpg), the inference was not 'boasting' (clearly how you took it though) but actually the quite the opposite, indicating that driving the R daily in heavy congested conditions can impact on long term mpg considerably as is the case with my situation. If you were to analyse my long term average speed alongside my average mpg, you will see the true picture is actually the antithesis of boasting, lol.

In your opening post you made no reference at all to the types of journey, roads or conditions you were undertaking or driving on/in other than mention of a particular short journey's distance. You were bemoaning the fact you were getting lower than expected mpg on that journey. If you read Joe's and my original responses you will see that we both advised (as members who have been driving R's for a good while) that much came down to type of journey as well as driving style and that mpg does not improve considerably over time in our experience, and that the journey's mpg you were reporting is consistent with short trips in the R.  We were simply trying to prepare you for the reality if you are making regular short trips and are expecting a notable increase over time.  Of course, in time you will draw your own conclusions.  It is actually quite difficult to draw definitive conclusions form comparisons with others, because there are many variables. Perhaps in your situation in your location with less congested roads you may well fare better, I hope you do since mpg does seem to be a concern for you.

I'm shortly to see a seasonal increase in my mpg, as the summer school holidays approach. In my neck of the woods, in the summer when the schools traffic is taken out of the equation, my mpg increases by about 4-5 mpg for 6-8weeks.  Once the schools and traffic return, it takes a couple of weeks and mpg is then returned right back to the boastful 22mpg.  :grin:
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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: 29 May 2017, 15:21 »
I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Get those buckets of salt ready, here is the long term average on my S3.
I would have thought the 7.5R shouldn't be any worse.

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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: 29 May 2017, 19:56 »
I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Get those buckets of salt ready, here is the long term average on my S3.
I would have thought the 7.5R shouldn't be any worse.



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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #55 on: 29 May 2017, 20:02 »
I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *

Get those buckets of salt ready, here is the long term average on my S3.
I would have thought the 7.5R shouldn't be any worse.



The spirit was not that someone is lying necessarily but that for those numbers to be true (no reason to believe they aren't)  it should be down to a way of driving and conditions way different than mine or most others for that matter, to be considered representative for the average R/S3/Clubsport owner so I still don't stress over anyone's unusually high mpg of any variant of the CJX engine. These engines have been out for quite a while now to expect any improvements all of a sudden. So yes, 31.9mpg over 9322.2 miles is totally possible but as someone (in a different language) once said: it's a bit like sausages: Result tastes good but you don't want to know how they were made...

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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: 29 May 2017, 23:23 »
I doubt the 7.5 FL has any impact on the already known consumption of these engines (unless just slight due to the new 7speed maybe). From my Clubsport experience (which has the same engine and turbo as the R but 100kg less) I'd say it's normal to hit 24-26 (my current 6,000 mile average is 25,8) with a mixed type of driving but anything above 30 requires the car to be driven in a clearly unpleasant fashion. Screen-shots don't speak the truth, I've seen 38-40 in mine but I was just on an economy exercise - nowhere near how I normally drive the car. I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *



Going back a couple of pages, OP you say that you didn't buy this car for economy but then 22 is almost boasting in everyday driving. Apart from self-contradicting what is the reference by which 22 is boasting? Usually you need to have one before you draw such conclusions and if you check other similar machinery you will realize the Golf doesn't really drink any worse than them.

I can see out context 22mpg is nothing to boast about but the way it was quoted by another almost inferred it something to be grateful for. I certainly don't think it is, that is in everyday driving unless maybe you travel 2miles in 50 mins that is or central London etc. No for me my rural area I will expect to get around 28 average with a mixture of driving in normal and sport.

If you are referring to the reference I (by whatever bizarre name you might wish to call me today) made to 22mpg (which is my average mpg), the inference was not 'boasting' (clearly how you took it though) but actually the quite the opposite, indicating that driving the R daily in heavy congested conditions can impact on long term mpg considerably as is the case with my situation. If you were to analyse my long term average speed alongside my average mpg, you will see the true picture is actually the antithesis of boasting, lol.

In your opening post you made no reference at all to the types of journey, roads or conditions you were undertaking or driving on/in other than mention of a particular short journey's distance. You were bemoaning the fact you were getting lower than expected mpg on that journey. If you read Joe's and my original responses you will see that we both advised (as members who have been driving R's for a good while) that much came down to type of journey as well as driving style and that mpg does not improve considerably over time in our experience, and that the journey's mpg you were reporting is consistent with short trips in the R.  We were simply trying to prepare you for the reality if you are making regular short trips and are expecting a notable increase over time.  Of course, in time you will draw your own conclusions.  It is actually quite difficult to draw definitive conclusions form comparisons with others, because there are many variables. Perhaps in your situation in your location with less congested roads you may well fare better, I hope you do since mpg does seem to be a concern for you.

I'm shortly to see a seasonal increase in my mpg, as the summer school holidays approach. In my neck of the woods, in the summer when the schools traffic is taken out of the equation, my mpg increases by about 4-5 mpg for 6-8weeks.  Once the schools and traffic return, it takes a couple of weeks and mpg is then returned right back to the boastful 22mpg.  :grin:

Am I right in thinking you drive  mainly short journeys and mostly in traffic. Have you done a long say 200 journey in you lovely R or do you use the SUV for such journeys, only joking . You are still leading the lowest MPG chart btw. Was that your R that bettered the S3 in my you tube post. Very very satisfying,never owned an Audi and never will.Why?
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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #57 on: 29 May 2017, 23:46 »
I doubt the 7.5 FL has any impact on the already known consumption of these engines (unless just slight due to the new 7speed maybe). From my Clubsport experience (which has the same engine and turbo as the R but 100kg less) I'd say it's normal to hit 24-26 (my current 6,000 mile average is 25,8) with a mixed type of driving but anything above 30 requires the car to be driven in a clearly unpleasant fashion. Screen-shots don't speak the truth, I've seen 38-40 in mine but I was just on an economy exercise - nowhere near how I normally drive the car. I personally take any 30+ claims with several buckets of salt but hey, it's the internet. The S3 claims are even more amusing but again it's not the craziest thing I've heard about S3's * no intention of being sarcastic - just my personal experiences *



Going back a couple of pages, OP you say that you didn't buy this car for economy but then 22 is almost boasting in everyday driving. Apart from self-contradicting what is the reference by which 22 is boasting? Usually you need to have one before you draw such conclusions and if you check other similar machinery you will realize the Golf doesn't really drink any worse than them.

I can see out context 22mpg is nothing to boast about but the way it was quoted by another almost inferred it something to be grateful for. I certainly don't think it is, that is in everyday driving unless maybe you travel 2miles in 50 mins that is or central London etc. No for me my rural area I will expect to get around 28 average with a mixture of driving in normal and sport.

If you are referring to the reference I (by whatever bizarre name you might wish to call me today) made to 22mpg (which is my average mpg), the inference was not 'boasting' (clearly how you took it though) but actually the quite the opposite, indicating that driving the R daily in heavy congested conditions can impact on long term mpg considerably as is the case with my situation. If you were to analyse my long term average speed alongside my average mpg, you will see the true picture is actually the antithesis of boasting, lol.

In your opening post you made no reference at all to the types of journey, roads or conditions you were undertaking or driving on/in other than mention of a particular short journey's distance. You were bemoaning the fact you were getting lower than expected mpg on that journey. If you read Joe's and my original responses you will see that we both advised (as members who have been driving R's for a good while) that much came down to type of journey as well as driving style and that mpg does not improve considerably over time in our experience, and that the journey's mpg you were reporting is consistent with short trips in the R.  We were simply trying to prepare you for the reality if you are making regular short trips and are expecting a notable increase over time.  Of course, in time you will draw your own conclusions.  It is actually quite difficult to draw definitive conclusions form comparisons with others, because there are many variables. Perhaps in your situation in your location with less congested roads you may well fare better, I hope you do since mpg does seem to be a concern for you.

I'm shortly to see a seasonal increase in my mpg, as the summer school holidays approach. In my neck of the woods, in the summer when the schools traffic is taken out of the equation, my mpg increases by about 4-5 mpg for 6-8weeks.  Once the schools and traffic return, it takes a couple of weeks and mpg is then returned right back to the boastful 22mpg.  :grin:

Am I right in thinking you drive  mainly short journeys and mostly in traffic. Have you done a long say 200 journey in you lovely R or do you use the SUV for such journeys, only joking . You are still leading the lowest MPG chart btw. Was that your R that bettered the S3 in my you tube post. Very very satisfying,never owned an Audi and never will.Why?

I do many daily short city journeys, several regular longer rural journeys and motorway journeys and a few 500 mile round trips a year - all in the R. I don't see mpg as some kind of competition or leaderboard, I get the mpg I get, and I have no problem visiting the pumps when needed. I'm not the one bemoaning the mpg of the R ;-)
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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #58 on: 30 May 2017, 09:04 »
I was torn between the GTI and R, opted for GTI because MPG has to be a consideration for me (c15k miles a year).  Glad I opted for the GTI after reading that real world experience tends to pitch the R at 25% lower MPG!

Back to the question asked, I've just ticked over 10k miles and within the last 2-3k have seen a notable change in MPG that isn't quite fully explained by seasonality alone.  First 6-7k miles my long term average was c35mpg, I'm now closer to 40mpg and my daily commute usually returns 40mpg give or take 1 either way.  For reference, my 1.9 TDI tuned Ibiza would get approx 48mpg on the same journey.  The only other thing to have changed in that time is Shell's VPower formulation, which has powered 99.9% of my mileage.  I suspect it's a combination of "bedding in" and a slight improvement in MPG due to fuel - I'm not the only one to have experienced such from a quick straw poll of those I know that run VPower.
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Re: New R Fuel Consumption!!!!!
« Reply #59 on: 30 May 2017, 09:25 »
The spirit was not that someone is lying necessarily but that for those numbers to be true (no reason to believe they aren't)  it should be down to a way of driving and conditions way different than mine or most others for that matter, to be considered representative for the average R/S3/Clubsport owner so I still don't stress over anyone's unusually high mpg of any variant of the CJX engine. These engines have been out for quite a while now to expect any improvements all of a sudden. So yes, 31.9mpg over 9322.2 miles is totally possible but as someone (in a different language) once said: it's a bit like sausages: Result tastes good but you don't want to know how they were made...

It's fairly simple really, I use my car as my daily driver and my main commute of 40 miles is spent at 40-60mph in constant traffic, so perfect conditions for good MPG but no choice unless I act like an idiot and try to pass everyone.
This usually gives high 30s to 40 as seems to be the norm for this average speed judging by the comments from the VWROC forum linked earlier. Was never that keen in rushing to work anyway  :smiley:

At the weekend when enjoying the car it's usually low to mid 20s so this averages out at what you see.

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