GTi Performance - Manual or DSG

[hog_hedge]

Don't you need to spec traffic jam assist for stop/start ACC? I thought ACC switches off under 3mph or similar?

Without traffic jam assist the ACC brings you to a standstill and then you touch the throttle once for it to start again and off it goes.

Do you need to apply the brakes at standstill?

No they are applied by the car.

[hog_hedge]

DSG is slow? lol that's one I haven't heard before!

OP, try and get an extended drive in one if you're considering it. It does take a bit more than a lap around the block to get a right feel for it and I reckon many of the negative comments stem from brief test drives.

The DSG can appear slow if you treat it like a manual car. After driving manual for 25 years - it took me quite a while to learn how to get the most out of my DSG. For example: I used to miss manual when overtaking.

No doubt the DSG is faster accelerating. However, it can be slow to respond to sudden pedal inputs for acceleration. That's when the paddles are needed.

The OP has a DSG. Though it is a big diesel car. So it will feel completely different from the smaller petrol car.

When I'm about to overtake someone I just flick the DSG stick down once to put the box into Sport, it drops to the lowest gear straight away and then I have instant power ready for the overtake. I rarely use the paddles.

[mcmaddy]

When I said the dsg was slow I meant on downshifts for example approaching roundabouts or open junctions. Still think a manual is better for being properly involved with the car but every owner will have a different opinion on this. 

[Avallon]

Don't you need to spec traffic jam assist for stop/start ACC? I thought ACC switches off under 3mph or similar?

Without traffic jam assist the ACC brings you to a standstill and then you touch the throttle once for it to start again and off it goes.

Do you need to apply the brakes at standstill?

excellent thanks!

No they are applied by the car.

[LRWmotorsport]

DSG all the way for road use.

Most annoying thing is the fuel cut when overlapping brake and throttle but can be mapped out.

[Mark V GTD]

Without traffic jam assist the ACC brings you to a standstill and then you touch the throttle once for it to start again and off it goes.

Only if you at rest for more than five seconds or so - less than that and it moves off again without any driver input. More time than that  then you can just press the 'resume' button on the steering wheel to move off again - no need to touch the pedals at all.

[eatontrifles]

Without traffic jam assist the ACC brings you to a standstill and then you touch the throttle once for it to start again and off it goes.

Only if you at rest for more than five seconds or so - less than that and it moves off again without any driver input. More time than that  then you can just press the 'resume' button on the steering wheel to move off again - no need to touch the pedals at all.

This is the exact reason I went with DSG. 90% of my time is spent driving in traffic, or on non free-flowing motorways or dual carriageways and it only seems to be getting worse.

For the other 10%, there are paddles and Sport mode.

[dubber36]

When I'm about to overtake someone I just flick the DSG stick down once to put the box into Sport, it drops to the lowest gear straight away and then I have instant power ready for the overtake. I rarely use the paddles.

Don't you use the paddles to upshift when on full throttle? There's rarely the need to use all of the revs in each gear.

[Daz Auto]

When I'm about to overtake someone I just flick the DSG stick down once to put the box into Sport, it drops to the lowest gear straight away and then I have instant power ready for the overtake. I rarely use the paddles.

I used to do that. Though I didn't like sitting at high revs in a low gear waiting for a gap to overtake. I found that S mode also has a delay. So I learned to use the flappy paddles for better control.

I'm looking forward to trying the new 7 speed DSG. They are discussing it on the Golf R forum and people are saying it is faster to respond

[hog_hedge]

Without traffic jam assist the ACC brings you to a standstill and then you touch the throttle once for it to start again and off it goes.

Only if you at rest for more than five seconds or so - less than that and it moves off again without any driver input. More time than that  then you can just press the 'resume' button on the steering wheel to move off again - no need to touch the pedals at all.

No way! I'll try that out next time I'm in the car. Thanks for the info.