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Re: Full House!
« Reply #110 on: 24 January 2019, 10:27 »
Can’t help feeling all these low mileage CS’s are a bit of a waste. The Golf is an everyday car. Always has been, always will be. CS surely must be crying out to be driven. Everywhere! Could half understand it with a CSS as can imagine someone buying that a 2nd or 3rd fun car for track days.

Got a mate with a GT4 with less than 500 Miles on. One of the best modern Porsche’s sat doing not much  :rolleyes:

It is a waste of a good car but it’s the type of car that is bought as a Sunday Best or for occasional use in the main. Same as a Focus RS is often bought by die hard fast Ford fans but not used every day.

It depends on how the car fits in the household too. Not everyone uses a car for business or gets a business allowance. Many of us finance and run it fully privately and don’t cover massive mileage full stop but still need a 5 door practical hatch occasionally. To me a Clubsport is the perfect blend of sports car agility and performance but still does family chores perfectly. Mine has had its back seats folded flat for three months and is a very quick mobile skip transporting flat pack from city to coast every week!
In hindsight I should have bought a CSS but at the time they were released I was being aimed by my employer toward a role that involved travelling all over the country so my R would have been the perfect car for the job. Alas, life changes by the month, I dodged that job but things have moved on and on again since!

Thanks for the write up Exonian, glad to see someone else has been working through the fast Golf range too. I agree on the GTE, it's not deserving of a GT badge but it sounds like you're happy with the best one you've owned to date.

I don't get this preciousness about driving cars - you're either a futures speculator or an enthusiast. It seems the intersection between the two means fantastic cars are not being driven as intended. I bought a Clubsport S nearly new last year - it had done 800 miles and had 5 previous owners. It's white as well so looks pretty similar to yours. I've done 5000 miles in it and can't see myself selling it.

@Jim_mk7.5 - That's not even run in on the GT4, go and hit your mate on the head for that.  :laugh: I got mine new and it'll be 3 this year and I've done nowhere near the mileage I feel I should have done but I cleared the run in mileage (1,800 miles) in months of getting it. Funnily enough, I've been enjoying the CSS to the extent that I didn't use the GT4 as much last year because of it, it's that good a car.

Both are fantastic and I am amazed at the chassis control and turn in on the CSS compared to a mid-engined Porsche. Initially, it took me a little time to like/get used to the car - the pedal weights, clutch, seating position are very different.

I met up with a friend of mine for a drive and breakfast before Christmas and I turned up in the CSS. He has a 991.2 GT3 and he started giving me a hard time about having to go slow so that I could keep up. We did a 60 mile drive and over breakfast he admitted that he couldn't shake me from his tail other than when he had a power advantage on clear straights. He said that I must have been really hustling to keep up and in truth, I wasn't working that hard. Quite often, he slowed me down because the CSS in 'ring mode has much more pliancy than the GT3 and he was slowing to not damage his splitter on some really uneven B roads.

What I find odd about the CSS though is that there are features that would make it more usable and add negligible weight yet are absent. Cruise control (versus adaptive cruise control) and parking sensors for example. Porsche are masters at charging more for less and they do this on their GT cars but if you're going to spend money on a car like a CSS, it encourages you to use it more and helps to reduce the risk of accidental damage if you have a couple of these simple conveniences.

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Re: Full House!
« Reply #111 on: 24 January 2019, 22:56 »
Just stumbled upon this thread, not sure how I've missed it. Great write up, took me ages to read but probably (definitely) not as long as what it took to type.

The Clubsport is my favourite of the current Golfs. I was lucky enough to drive all 3 back to back and it was by far the best IMO.

I will own one one day.

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« Reply #112 on: 03 April 2019, 19:50 »
This part of the latest update of the thread should’ve been buried in the “what have you done to your mk7 today?” thread I guess, but due to a pretty horrific few days last weekend with personal disasters going off left right and centre it missed its slot.

So without further ado I’ll introduce my new boots, a shiny set of Michelin PS4S fitted last Friday.
Aside from the “free” sets of tyres supplied on new cars it’s been some years since I bought more than the odd new tyre.
I tended to buy aftermarket wheels for my cars and often re-used tyres I already owned as I did a minimal mileage so the round black things lasted years.

The Ed40 Clubsport was always intended to stay fairly standard in my hands after a lifetime of me lightly modifying cars.

I was never keen on the original Belvedere wheels but didn’t share the hatred of the original fit Bridgestone tyres which most here slate. They do the job ok in my eyes and the guys who developed the Clubsport chassis seemed to rate them. Maybe I never drove them hard enough when they were cold(?)
The Bridgestones were very noisy on certain surfaces though.

As soon as I could I picked up a set of very tidy used Pretoria wheels which coincided with Booth11 getting some new PS4S tyres, so I took on her old Conti 5’s.
These tyres were only intended as a stop gap but had reasonable tread on them and with the occasional use the car was getting they lasted me nearly a further 18 months until they were down to below 3mm.

The Conti 5s were grippy enough, slightly harsh and very noisy at times but for an OEM sports tyre they were very good for general road use so long as the radio was cranked up a few notches!

Alas, all good things come to an end and it was out with the old and in with the new a week or so before the car’s second service.
Booth’s boots went in the skip and I followed the footsteps of many on here, just like Rebecca that set of Conti 5s were replaced by some Michelin PS4S.

I’ve been driving for well over 30 years and am well familiar with the effect even replacing one set of tyres with an identical unworn set can have as regards to ride quality, noise and grip, traction  etc.

I was expecting great things of the Michelins.
I still am after all the glowing reports and forum love in’s for them!   

Initial thoughts are the usual new tyre placebo of extra comfort plus slightly reduced noise depending on road surface and speed.
They’re still very new and need bedding in.
Time will tell whether they’re 25% better than say a Rainsport 3 to reflect the 25% or so extra cost!
But as a direct competitor to the likes of Continental etc I’m more than happy to trust the word of fellow forumites who swear by the PS4S, and it gives me a break from Contis which I’ve been running almost exclusively for seven or eight years (with the odd few months of OEM Bridgestones thrown in).

The tyre fitters mercifully didn’t mark the wheels when fitting the tyres and remarked to me that they much preferred the CS’s looks compared to the Lapiz R on the ramps next to it! The fitter actually called the R an R-Line...


And that brings me up to the point of the car’s second birthday.
Happy Birthday little white car  (slightly belated by a few days). 

It still gets loads of compliments from passers by and I still love it as much I did when I first brought it home.
Considering it’s just a boring Golf at the end of the day, it’s surprising just how special it feels to drive and own day to day.

Second birthday equals second (expensive) service due and it’s booked in very soon...




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Re: Full House!
« Reply #113 on: 03 April 2019, 20:00 »
This part of the latest update of the thread should’ve been buried in the “what have you done to your mk7 today?” thread I guess, but due to a pretty horrific few days last weekend with personal disasters going off left right and centre it missed its slot.

So without further ado I’ll introduce my new boots, a shiny set of Michelin PS4S fitted last Friday.
Aside from the “free” sets of tyres supplied on new cars it’s been some years since I bought more than the odd new tyre.
I tended to buy aftermarket wheels for my cars and often re-used tyres I already owned as I did a minimal mileage so the round black things lasted years.

The Ed40 Clubsport was always intended to stay fairly standard in my hands after a lifetime of me lightly modifying cars.

I was never keen on the original Belvedere wheels but didn’t share the hatred of the original fit Bridgestone tyres which most here slate. They do the job ok in my eyes and the guys who developed the Clubsport chassis seemed to rate them. Maybe I never drove them hard enough when they were cold(?)
The Bridgestones were very noisy on certain surfaces though.

As soon as I could I picked up a set of very tidy used Pretoria wheels which coincided with Booth11 getting some new PS4S tyres, so I took on her old Conti 5’s.
These tyres were only intended as a stop gap but had reasonable tread on them and with the occasional use the car was getting they lasted me nearly a further 18 months until they were down to below 3mm.

The Conti 5s were grippy enough, slightly harsh and very noisy at times but for an OEM sports tyre they were very good for general road use so long as the radio was cranked up a few notches!

Alas, all good things come to an end and it was out with the old and in with the new a week or so before the car’s second service.
Booth’s boots went in the skip and I followed the footsteps of many on here, just like Rebecca that set of Conti 5s were replaced by some Michelin PS4S.

I’ve been driving for well over 30 years and am well familiar with the effect even replacing one set of tyres with an identical unworn set can have as regards to ride quality, noise and grip, traction  etc.

I was expecting great things of the Michelins.
I still am after all the glowing reports and forum love in’s for them!   

Initial thoughts are the usual new tyre placebo of extra comfort plus slightly reduced noise depending on road surface and speed.
They’re still very new and need bedding in.
Time will tell whether they’re 25% better than say a Rainsport 3 to reflect the 25% or so extra cost!
But as a direct competitor to the likes of Continental etc I’m more than happy to trust the word of fellow forumites who swear by the PS4S, and it gives me a break from Contis which I’ve been running almost exclusively for seven or eight years (with the odd few months of OEM Bridgestones thrown in).

The tyre fitters mercifully didn’t mark the wheels when fitting the tyres and remarked to me that they much preferred the CS’s looks compared to the Lapiz R on the ramps next to it! The fitter actually called the R an R-Line...


And that brings me up to the point of the car’s second birthday.
Happy Birthday little white car  (slightly belated by a few days). 

It still gets loads of compliments from passers by and I still love it as much I did when I first brought it home.
Considering it’s just a boring Golf at the end of the day, it’s surprising just how special it feels to drive and own day to day.

Second birthday equals second (expensive) service due and it’s booked in very soon...



Great little update Andy.
It just shows you how special a car the CS is, for you to keep it this long and still not feel the need to swap it out.
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #114 on: 03 April 2019, 20:13 »
Thanks Andy  :smiley:
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« Reply #115 on: 03 April 2019, 20:26 »
Nice post Exonian, I'm certainly pleased with my PS4S, tramping is such a rare event now. Although maybe I've mellowed a bit more with age and are being more careful with the loud pedal? They can be noisy on the concreted sections of the M25, otherwise they are great.

As for these cars just being a boring Golf, they certainly are but I'm always amazed at just how much attention mine gets, I've never had a car like it, even my old Lotus! But it is such a fun car to drive, not perfect but fun, I really don't know what I could happily replace it with now although I'm with Kalimon, I saw a very smart TR CS 3 door recently, now that was tempting! :smiley:
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #116 on: 03 April 2019, 21:04 »
Nice post Exonian, I'm certainly pleased with my PS4S, tramping is such a rare event now. Although maybe I've mellowed a bit more with age and are being more careful with the loud pedal? They can be noisy on the concreted sections of the M25, otherwise they are great.

As for these cars just being a boring Golf, they certainly are but I'm always amazed at just how much attention mine gets, I've never had a car like it, even my old Lotus! But it is such a fun car to drive, not perfect but fun, I really don't know what I could happily replace it with now although I'm with Kalimon, I saw a very smart TR CS 3 door recently, now that was tempting! :smiley:

Your GTI is pretty perfect as is, keep saving for the Ed45!
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #117 on: 03 April 2019, 21:09 »
Nice post Exonian, I'm certainly pleased with my PS4S, tramping is such a rare event now. Although maybe I've mellowed a bit more with age and are being more careful with the loud pedal? They can be noisy on the concreted sections of the M25, otherwise they are great.

As for these cars just being a boring Golf, they certainly are but I'm always amazed at just how much attention mine gets, I've never had a car like it, even my old Lotus! But it is such a fun car to drive, not perfect but fun, I really don't know what I could happily replace it with now although I'm with Kalimon, I saw a very smart TR CS 3 door recently, now that was tempting! :smiley:

Your GTI is pretty perfect as is, keep saving for the Ed45!

The rate the prices are rising by, it'll be the Ed50!
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #118 on: 03 April 2019, 21:12 »
Nice post Exonian, I'm certainly pleased with my PS4S, tramping is such a rare event now. Although maybe I've mellowed a bit more with age and are being more careful with the loud pedal? They can be noisy on the concreted sections of the M25, otherwise they are great.

As for these cars just being a boring Golf, they certainly are but I'm always amazed at just how much attention mine gets, I've never had a car like it, even my old Lotus! But it is such a fun car to drive, not perfect but fun, I really don't know what I could happily replace it with now although I'm with Kalimon, I saw a very smart TR CS 3 door recently, now that was tempting! :smiley:

Your GTI is pretty perfect as is, keep saving for the Ed45!

The rate the prices are rising by, it'll be the Ed50!

Great post Exonian!

Watts - I reckon the 50th anniversary will be worth holding out for :smiley:
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« Reply #119 on: 03 April 2019, 21:32 »
Watts - I reckon the 50th anniversary will be worth holding out for :smiley:

You could be right, but will I last that long?? :laugh:
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