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Offline Exonian

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Re: Full House!
« Reply #40 on: 14 May 2017, 00:25 »
I can't justify the cost to change right now. Keep the insights coming, be interesting to hear how you feel in a month or two once it's settled in :smiley:
Well, you say you can't afford the cost to change but there are a few now around the £26 - £27k mark and once you've driven one...  :whistle:

make sure you drive it more often than you did the GTI PP, R and GTD  :smiley:

I'll try, I promise! :afro:

Great post Exonian and interesting to hear your views on the pedal box. I've been sitting on the fence on whether to purchase one as I had one on my previous GTI and loved it but I agree with you the CS throttle response is much better the the std GTI.

Do you think the CS has a sharper pedal response than the R as several rave about the difference the pedal box makes to the R?

Based on your experience so far would you recommend the pedal box for the CS?

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My son commandeered my other car on Friday evening so he didn't have to pay £4 bus fare to go to the cinema  :rolleyes:
Therefore for my last nightshift of the week I had to take the GTI to work.
Obviously I then felt obliged to take the very long route home. And then a bit more for good measure.
I can honestly say that the ClubSport is the first car in many many years I've not felt the need to modify. Normally I have a plan in place even before I buy a car as to how I want it to look and drive. Even sans bucket seats the CS feels pretty much as I'd want it. Maybe some 19" wheels at a later date if funds allow.
However there is one thing that really does amplify the car's responses and now I've done a few miles in the car driving the sort of roads I bought it for I still think the pedalbox is an almost essential addition. The dead inch or so of travel is still there as per the rest of the range so it's just a matter of adjusting the pedalbox to remove that but not having it overly sensitive.
So yes, I'd still recommend it Paul  :smiley:
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #41 on: 14 May 2017, 11:37 »
Thanks for the confirmation Exonian. Looking forward to your next review.
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #42 on: 19 May 2017, 15:11 »
You walk out of the building early in the morning after a long night shift. The sun is backlighting the sky from beyond the horizon with some amazing colours which are highlighted by grey stripy clouds hanging low in the atmosphere. The moon and brighter stars are still high in the heavens and are tinged a reddish orange, then to top it off there are wispy white patches of fog dotted around.
You ask yourself a quick question, do I go home, have a drink and hit the hay or do I fire up my Volkswagen and make the most of the beautiful morning and clear roads.

Indeed, there is only one answer to that.

The coffee and pillows were just fine thanks.


Not really. The black and white beast and I went on a bit of an adventure. Not a very long adventure mind as I needed my bed but far enough for me to warm it through and get more familiar with it.
I appreciate the chassis is pretty much the same as all the other mk7's I've owned, the body shell is exactly the same as all the other mk7's I've owned, the view from the driver's seat etc etc.
But there are the little details put into the car that make a lot of difference, and sometimes it's the small details that are the important ones.
On paper it's pretty easy, you've got a GTI PP chassis set up and a Leon Cupra tune in the Golf R engine. The Cupra originally came in a choice of 265 or 280PS then 290PS. A good friend of mine owned a 280 back when they were released and it was a very impressive performer.
In general driving the feel is GTI PP and the acoustics are Golf R.
First and second gears don't feel anything special and indeed like the Golf R they feel a bit too low to make use of the torque without either changing up early as they feel a bit snatchy or holding the revs and risking wheelspin.

Then you hit third coming off a roundabout.
I'll assume that sans pedalbox you'll need to hit the kick down button at the back of the throttle pedal to release the overboost but with pedalbox fitted it feels like it boosts earlier in the pedal travel.
Now 25bhp extra in a lardy modern car doesn't actually sound much. I've had remaps with 60 and 70PS extra and you do notice that but 25bhp shouldn't really be that noticeable. In theory.
It's the way it's delivered that's the thing.
I reckon it must be the grandson of the guy who decided it would be both funny and fitting to have a golf ball gear knob in a GTI or 'sport Golf' back in the 70's that was put in charge of the ED40 throttle mapping. I'll assume the generation of family in the middle were sent off to work for SEAT Sport and retired in the sun whilst their grandchild returned to the Mothership in Wolfsburg.
When the overboost comes in it actually feels quite savage for a mere 25PS, the acoustics take on a really angry note which is pretty impressive for a standard exhaust (sondaktor turned down to ECO) and the car just rockets forward and, just like the GTI PP before it, the VAQ takes on this uncanny feeling of dragging the car forward almost like it's being towed behind something very fast and powerful on an elastic band.
Ok it's not brutally fast like the JB1 Golf R and it doesn't have the huge boot of torque that the DTUK GTD packs to kick it out of a roundabout and up the road far quicker than the low revs recorded on the rev counter would have you believe.
But as a standard car it's actually pretty impressive.
The VAQ works miracles with the Bridgestones.
Then when you get back to the 40 then 30 limits the car just goes back to being a Golf. Comfy, flexible, over 30mpg on the computer and just a burbling hint from the exhaust.

Maybe I'm easily pleased but I think considering it's nothing out of the ordinary underneath it just makes you want to drive and drive...

Thankfully someone with something a bit more hardcore under their bonnet and chassis didn't come along and humble me on their own early morning jaunt. Now that might have made me question things a bit more. So for now I'll just sit and be smug, it just a boring old Golf after all.



 
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #43 on: 19 May 2017, 18:42 »
You walk out of the building early in the morning after a long night shift. The sun is backlighting the sky from beyond the horizon with some amazing colours which are highlighted by grey stripy clouds hanging low in the atmosphere. The moon and brighter stars are still high in the heavens and are tinged a reddish orange, then to top it off there are wispy white patches of fog dotted around.
You ask yourself a quick question, do I go home, have a drink and hit the hay or do I fire up my Volkswagen and make the most of the beautiful morning and clear roads.

Indeed, there is only one answer to that.

The coffee and pillows were just fine thanks.


Not really. The black and white beast and I went on a bit of an adventure. Not a very long adventure mind as I needed my bed but far enough for me to warm it through and get more familiar with it.
I appreciate the chassis is pretty much the same as all the other mk7's I've owned, the body shell is exactly the same as all the other mk7's I've owned, the view from the driver's seat etc etc.
But there are the little details put into the car that make a lot of difference, and sometimes it's the small details that are the important ones.
On paper it's pretty easy, you've got a GTI PP chassis set up and a Leon Cupra tune in the Golf R engine. The Cupra originally came in a choice of 265 or 280PS then 290PS. A good friend of mine owned a 280 back when they were released and it was a very impressive performer.
In general driving the feel is GTI PP and the acoustics are Golf R.
First and second gears don't feel anything special and indeed like the Golf R they feel a bit too low to make use of the torque without either changing up early as they feel a bit snatchy or holding the revs and risking wheelspin.

Then you hit third coming off a roundabout.
I'll assume that sans pedalbox you'll need to hit the kick down button at the back of the throttle pedal to release the overboost but with pedalbox fitted it feels like it boosts earlier in the pedal travel.
Now 25bhp extra in a lardy modern car doesn't actually sound much. I've had remaps with 60 and 70PS extra and you do notice that but 25bhp shouldn't really be that noticeable. In theory.
It's the way it's delivered that's the thing.
I reckon it must be the grandson of the guy who decided it would be both funny and fitting to have a golf ball gear knob in a GTI or 'sport Golf' back in the 70's that was put in charge of the ED40 throttle mapping. I'll assume the generation of family in the middle were sent off to work for SEAT Sport and retired in the sun whilst their grandchild returned to the Mothership in Wolfsburg.
When the overboost comes in it actually feels quite savage for a mere 25PS, the acoustics take on a really angry note which is pretty impressive for a standard exhaust (sondaktor turned down to ECO) and the car just rockets forward and, just like the GTI PP before it, the VAQ takes on this uncanny feeling of dragging the car forward almost like it's being towed behind something very fast and powerful on an elastic band.
Ok it's not brutally fast like the JB1 Golf R and it doesn't have the huge boot of torque that the DTUK GTD packs to kick it out of a roundabout and up the road far quicker than the low revs recorded on the rev counter would have you believe.
But as a standard car it's actually pretty impressive.
The VAQ works miracles with the Bridgestones.
Then when you get back to the 40 then 30 limits the car just goes back to being a Golf. Comfy, flexible, over 30mpg on the computer and just a burbling hint from the exhaust.

Maybe I'm easily pleased but I think considering it's nothing out of the ordinary underneath it just makes you want to drive and drive...

Thankfully someone with something a bit more hardcore under their bonnet and chassis didn't come along and humble me on their own early morning jaunt. Now that might have made me question things a bit more. So for now I'll just sit and be smug, it just a boring old Golf after all.
All right Andy, calm down :grin:
This is so out of character for you, you're usually much more Larry David in your approach to cars ( and life in general ).
Has your account been hacked? :laugh:
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #44 on: 19 May 2017, 18:45 »
Nice write up and I suspect a JB1 (or 4) could be on its way sometime in the future? :evil:

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Re: Full House!
« Reply #45 on: 19 May 2017, 18:58 »
Nice to hear you waxing lyrical about the CS, obviously hitting the right spot Mr Ex. :afro:​​​​​​​
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #46 on: 20 May 2017, 05:35 »

All right Andy, calm down :grin:
This is so out of character for you, you're usually much more Larry David in your approach to cars ( and life in general ).
Has your account been hacked? :laugh:
I had to Google Larry David (I live a sheltered life), well if the cap fits I suppose  :grin: :grin:

And there was me thinking Enthusiasm was my middle name!

Talking of enthusiasm, did you see what broke cover yesterday?
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280466.0
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/up/99514/new-2018-volkswagen-up-gti-official-specs-and-video

Anybody want to buy my ClubSport?  :whistle:

Nice write up and I suspect a JB1 (or 4) could be on its way sometime in the future? :evil:
I'm thinking I'll keep this one standard. I don't want to push the balance of abilities away from how they are too much.
But you never know!
I like it out of the box. It's not the fastest car in the world nor the best handling but it works really well and is a great middle ground.

Nice to hear you waxing lyrical about the CS, obviously hitting the right spot Mr Ex. :afro:​​​​​​​
Does it show that I quite like it?  :laugh:
As I was typing the above I was just thinking that everyone will be sick of me banging on about the car.
So that's it, I think I've said all I can say about it now.

Anyway, ClubSports are so yesterday, pass me an UP! GTI
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #47 on: 20 May 2017, 08:13 »
I can't believe that you go and buy a CS and the very next week they announce the release of your dream car!
Life can be so cruel.
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #48 on: 20 May 2017, 11:28 »
Up GTi starting around £17k, I think I'd rather have an Amarth.
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Re: Full House!
« Reply #49 on: 20 May 2017, 12:21 »
I can't believe that you go and buy a CS and the very next week they announce the release of your dream car!
Life can be so cruel.

Happens to me every time.
 :cry:

Up GTi starting around £17k, I think I'd rather have an Amarth.
It's no bargain that's for sure.
I wonder if SEAT will do a funky Mii Cupra.
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