Clubsport S on new series of Top Gear THIS SUNDAY, WOO HOO!!

[CraigW]

I find it quite fascinating how "normal" drivers critique a racing driver with Sabine's pedigree - most of us would be crying for our mummy's if Sabine took us round the ring or indeed any racetrack in her GT3 RS yet when one of the best drivers in the World of media and racing goes round the Nord"ffe in a car that we love and was specifically designed for that track that is as fast as an old GT3 we say it's all rubbish. Top Gear has been stretching the truth for at least 10 years ... we take it with a pinch of salt! But still the truth remains that she would easily Best any of these cars with the likes of you and me driving, sure if Sabine was driving the RS she would probably Best anyone in the World on that track but she was driving the legendary Clubsport S ... a humble golf that can mix it with the big boys at 4 times the price, hence the idea behind the whole VT ... just like ECOTY the CS-S has been praised as one of the best sports cars in its price bracket of the last decade and in many ways any price bracket. Would I swap my GT4 for my Clubsport S ... of course not, as it was actually an ECOTY Champion but in many ways the CS-S carries similar DNA and is a true "go kart" as Sabine says. For anyone looking for cheap GT Porsche like ownership the CS-S has that same feeling of ownership at a third of the price, which is and was exactly the design brief 🎯👍

Someone please f**king remove this guys ECOTY magazine from him before he does some permanent damage to his wrists.

[Gulfstream11]

I had to Google ECOTY. Thought it meant Estate Car Of The Year.

[I wanted a GTi]

I had to Google ECOTY. Thought it meant Estate Car Of The Year.

What is the best way to get coffee stains out of an apple leather case? That is the funniest answer I've seen on here ever, estate car of the year

Thank you Gulfstream11

[GT4]

I had to Google ECOTY. Thought it meant Estate Car Of The Year.

Haha ... that is a beauty 👍

[wigit]

Still a huge Sabine fan as she makes it look so casual with her banter

Very easy to get mugged at that place when you are still learning, you tend to over brake for corners and then are just a sitting duck till you get back up to speed but great TV

Also I do feel the pay versus play comes into force with your own car

I would like to drive one of these over the downs from Winchester to Goodwood which I always think is a decent run to challenge a car

[Jackie Treehorn]

I find it quite fascinating how "normal" drivers critique a racing driver with Sabine's pedigree - most of us would be crying for our mummy's if Sabine took us round the ring or indeed any racetrack in her GT3 RS yet when one of the best drivers in the World of media and racing goes round the Nord"ffe in a car that we love and was specifically designed for that track that is as fast as an old GT3 we say it's all rubbish. Top Gear has been stretching the truth for at least 10 years ... we take it with a pinch of salt! But still the truth remains that she would easily Best any of these cars with the likes of you and me driving, sure if Sabine was driving the RS she would probably Best anyone in the World on that track but she was driving the legendary Clubsport S ... a humble golf that can mix it with the big boys at 4 times the price, hence the idea behind the whole VT ... just like ECOTY the CS-S has been praised as one of the best sports cars in its price bracket of the last decade and in many ways any price bracket. Would I swap my GT4 for my Clubsport S ... of course not, as it was actually an ECOTY Champion but in many ways the CS-S carries similar DNA and is a true "go kart" as Sabine says. For anyone looking for cheap GT Porsche like ownership the CS-S has that same feeling of ownership at a third of the price, which is and was exactly the design brief 🎯👍

Someone please f**king remove this guys ECOTY magazine from him before he does some permanent damage to his wrists.

@craig W   

GROTY (Golf Reply Of The Year)

[matchboy]

I find it quite fascinating how "normal" drivers critique a racing driver with Sabine's pedigree - most of us would be crying for our mummy's if Sabine took us round the ring or indeed any racetrack in her GT3 RS yet when one of the best drivers in the World of media and racing goes round the Nord"ffe in a car that we love and was specifically designed for that track that is as fast as an old GT3 we say it's all rubbish. Top Gear has been stretching the truth for at least 10 years ... we take it with a pinch of salt! But still the truth remains that she would easily Best any of these cars with the likes of you and me driving, sure if Sabine was driving the RS she would probably Best anyone in the World on that track but she was driving the legendary Clubsport S ... a humble golf that can mix it with the big boys at 4 times the price, hence the idea behind the whole VT ... just like ECOTY the CS-S has been praised as one of the best sports cars in its price bracket of the last decade and in many ways any price bracket. Would I swap my GT4 for my Clubsport S ... of course not, as it was actually an ECOTY Champion but in many ways the CS-S carries similar DNA and is a true "go kart" as Sabine says. For anyone looking for cheap GT Porsche like ownership the CS-S has that same feeling of ownership at a third of the price, which is and was exactly the design brief 🎯👍

Dude, there is no doubt that the CS-S is a really good track car - but as a daily it falls woefully short (no back seats, armrest etc etc) - and to call it legendary is pushing the boundaries of sanity a little too far.  No one in their right mind would have one over any Porsche if money was no object, there is no comparison, regardless of how quick it can go round the ring (because it's been basically stripped to save weight).  Come on, it's getting a little bit fanboy in here!  You are starting to sound like R400 on the R forum who thinks the R is the quickest car the world has ever seen 

[fredgroves]

Looking down the list of fastest laps round the Ring, I get down to a BMW M5 before I find a car which is actually a car you'd be able to live with as a form of day to day transport.

The others are all track/race things or that won't make it over speedbumps and have the lack of comfort and convenience of a daily driver.

Quite impressive really that a big old barge like that is the fastest of "proper" roadgoing cars on a race track.

[GT4]

I find it quite fascinating how "normal" drivers critique a racing driver with Sabine's pedigree - most of us would be crying for our mummy's if Sabine took us round the ring or indeed any racetrack in her GT3 RS yet when one of the best drivers in the World of media and racing goes round the Nord"ffe in a car that we love and was specifically designed for that track that is as fast as an old GT3 we say it's all rubbish. Top Gear has been stretching the truth for at least 10 years ... we take it with a pinch of salt! But still the truth remains that she would easily Best any of these cars with the likes of you and me driving, sure if Sabine was driving the RS she would probably Best anyone in the World on that track but she was driving the legendary Clubsport S ... a humble golf that can mix it with the big boys at 4 times the price, hence the idea behind the whole VT ... just like ECOTY the CS-S has been praised as one of the best sports cars in its price bracket of the last decade and in many ways any price bracket. Would I swap my GT4 for my Clubsport S ... of course not, as it was actually an ECOTY Champion but in many ways the CS-S carries similar DNA and is a true "go kart" as Sabine says. For anyone looking for cheap GT Porsche like ownership the CS-S has that same feeling of ownership at a third of the price, which is and was exactly the design brief 🎯👍

Dude, there is no doubt that the CS-S is a really good track car - but as a daily it falls woefully short (no back seats, armrest etc etc) - and to call it legendary is pushing the boundaries of sanity a little too far.  No one in their right mind would have one over any Porsche if money was no object, there is no comparison, regardless of how quick it can go round the ring (because it's been basically stripped to save weight).  Come on, it's getting a little bit fanboy in here!  You are starting to sound like R400 on the R forum who thinks the R is the quickest car the world has ever seen 

Fanboy ... I would disagree regarding the "daily" ... as many are "daily drivers" on this site! RFL at £180 and Ins at £230 and 35Mpg i would say thats a perfectly acceptable daily, but i do accept that if you want 4 doors its not a daily and/or back seats, so this point is purely subjective!

Regarding its "Legendary status" that context is based on Price ... I have a GT4 and a new GT3 allocation so am familiar with Cost Versus ownership enjoyment and as i said, would not swap my GT Porsche for a CS-S but the cheapest you will find a well specced GT4 is nearly 3 times the Clubsport Price, so as i said many times i think its a good car and a great substitute for a GT car but on a more stringent budget. What do you want me to say about the car ...? Its got no back seats and can't get the kids in so therefore its rubbish and therefore its not a feasible Golf ... this is crazy! Its a stripped out 40th Birthday present to Gti owners around the World and its a cracking little car ... as i am sure the R is or the normal Clubsport but i can't comment rightfully on these cars as i have never owned one ...!

I believe by the nature of the limited build this has naturally created a split decision amongst owners and enthusiasts ... I have not once criticised any Golf as they are a phenomenally successful little car and in any of its forms and functions does a great job as either a 4 door diesel chugger or a Gti sports car or a 4WD Winter daily or as a Track and B road blaster ...

So lets get back to the thread and comment on the little "Go-Kart" .... 

[TurboTrev]

I enjoyed the feature myself, even though it was tongue in cheek to say the least.  But the new series so far has been pants.  The presenters are terrible, in hindsight I'd rather have Chris Evans back!