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Offline RDC

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Aftermarket Alloys ?
« on: 10 February 2017, 21:58 »
Hi All, 1st time poster but been lurking for a while since I purchased my 63 GTI PP back in April. Looking for a bit of advice if possible. My car is on 19" Santaigos which seems like a big mistake for me now. The single road into my village is strewn with potholes. About 4 weeks after getting the car I hit a pothole at about 30mph which blew the front nearside tyre out instantly. The car was on crappy cheap Chinese rubber so was a good excuse to upgrade to Michelin Pilot Super Sports which Kwik Fit had on good deal at the time. When fitting, the 4th tyre would not seal and it was apparent an alloy was buckled. I managed to find an alloy wheel repair company who fixed the buckle whilst I waited and they also found a smaller buckle on the rear where I had gone over the pothole. The same thing has happened to me tonight, I hit a pothole going no more than 15mph approaching traffic lights in the same unlit road. Great swapping to the spacesaver in the sleet but I did have my daughter with me and we had a torch. Apart from chopping the car in which I don't really want to do as i will loose a lot of money, I was thinking of getting 18" alloys and quite like the look of the Racingline wheel at Awesome GTI 
 https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/racingline-performance/racingline-8j-x-18inch-alloy-wheels-satin-graphite-grey/
or something from OZ but I am probably looking at about £1800 with tyres.
Does anyone know if running 18" would give me more protection ? A couple of cars ago I did have a MK2 TT on 245/45/18 and never had this problem but maybe the road is worse now ? TIA  :smiley:

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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #1 on: 10 February 2017, 22:07 »
You'd be better of getting a second hand set of Austin 18" wheels and tyres and selling your 19" santiagos.

In fact you'll probably be a few hundred quid up.

I've also managed to buckle a Santiago alloy, found out when I was getting them refurbished and powder coated

I'm running 18" MSW type 19 wheels with winter tyres at the moment and I like the more comfortable ride.

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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #2 on: 10 February 2017, 22:26 »
Your question is something I'd like to know the answer to having been told I have 2 buckled Santiagos today :sad: Those wheels look great but there are plenty of alternatives at a more reasonable price, just depends on your budget. Mine are still useable so I'll stick with them for now but it might just be a matter of time as my local roads are getting really bad :angry:
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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #3 on: 11 February 2017, 05:29 »
Welcome RDC.
Santiagos do seem to be buckle prone going from people's experiences on this forum, which is a shame as they're lovely looking wheels.

Have a look in the classifieds as Cossieian is selling one or two (take your pick!) sets of very similar wheels to those in the AwesomeGTI link for considerably less money.

I ran a different set of 19" wheels to the OEM Santiagos on my GTI but also suffered a low speed blow out and buckle on a pothole. I think it might be something to do with the rear suspension of the GTI/D 2wd cars being unforgiving when it comes to sharp impacts even at low speed.
When I hit similar bumps, gulleys, cracked Tarmac or potholes in my R there was less of a noisy suspension crash from the rear of the car and the wheels and tyres survived completely unscathed.
A month ago I drove a GTI and GTD back to back and both hit a bit of cracked Tarmac with a sharp crash from the suspension which my R drove over with just a dull thud.
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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #4 on: 11 February 2017, 06:23 »
Thanks for the advise so far and 2nd hand wasn't something I had considered. May go down that route if I see something I really like. When tightening the wheels last night the wrench slipped off one of the locking wheel bolts and I think I may off knackered it and rounded off the bolt as the locking wheel nut wont grip  :cry:

By coincidence the car is booked into VW for a DSG service 1st thing today so hopefully they can sort. I also have a spare Santiago which I picked up cheap on Ebay after looking regularly on there after the 1st blow out, so hopefully can get that fitted.

I suppose what I really need to know is if anyone running 18's has had similar blow out problems or is not going to make much difference. 18" tyres are a hell of a lot cheaper with more options and more readily available.

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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #5 on: 11 February 2017, 06:44 »
Best thing to do with locking wheel nuts is to take them off and throw them in the bin :cry:
Had a similar situation last year and had to take car to a local tyre centre so they could use air gun to remove locking nuts, once removed threw them straight in the bin :smiley:

As Mr EX mentioned I have similar wheels to above in 18s, 1xset in Gloss Black, 1xset in Satin Black.
Both sets come with Michelin tyres :grin:
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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #6 on: 11 February 2017, 11:42 »
I had a similar issue with a locking wheel nut on a previous car I couldn't loosen and was afraid of it slipping and rounding the nut off. Took it to my local tyre place. He put a long bar on it and applied pressure, while someone else kept hitting the socket with a hammer at the same time. This worked for loosening it. I then applied copper grease to all of the wheel bolts...
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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #7 on: 11 February 2017, 12:01 »
I had a similar issue with a locking wheel nut on a previous car I couldn't loosen and was afraid of it slipping and rounding the nut off. Took it to my local tyre place. He put a long bar on it and applied pressure, while someone else kept hitting the socket with a hammer at the same time. This worked for loosening it. I then applied copper grease to all of the wheel bolts...

That is where an impacter tool is helpful.

A lot of problems with locking nuts come from the locking nuts being torqued the same as the other nuts.
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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #8 on: 11 February 2017, 19:15 »
Well the VW dealer was able to sort out the damaged wheel locking nut easy enough. A couple of the pins in the locking nut were slightly bent, the mechanic was able to straighten them out.

Took the damaged wheel to a local tyre indy. The tyre had a pinch type hole in the wall so that ruined that. The wheel has a slight buckle so I have ordered a mid price tyre and will use as a temp spare. They think the tyre will seal to the rim and I will get the rim repaired when I have time.

Cossieian thanks for the heads up for your wheels but would prefer a grey or anthracite set which I think would suit my pure white car better. Seen some BBS SR in grey for about £750 plus tyres, I'll probably go down that route.

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Re: Aftermarket Alloys ?
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2017, 20:10 »
The BBS SR's are a lovely wheel..  :grin:
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