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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #50 on: 03 February 2017, 22:54 »
Just done my R (5dr Manual)/ S3 (Sportback Manual) comparison with DTD and configurator. If I were to get another R, i'd probably not change spec (Prets and Lapiz, nothing else - mainly because I really don't like the design of Cadiz, the actual size of the wheels between 18" and 19" isn't that important to me).

If I was to get the S3, i'd have to tick a few more boxes - Navarra Blue, dimming/folding wing mirrors (not much between getting the dimming and not, but still getting folding mirrors), Rear parking sensors, auto-dimming rear view mirror. Was surprised at the diminished option box, so much more as standard now - and there's about £1700 between the 2 DTD prices, but there's a footnote  that the S3 price is cash price, so there's potential to take finance contribution off as the cheapest dealership doesn't include it but the next cheapest does. I'm assuming the next place may be £200 more. I'm guessing another £500 to come off the DTD price with £700 deposit contribution that is £200 cash price dearer than the cheapest.

S3 upside: The S3 would feel like a different car (rather than the same one twice), it has the better looking Nappa or Nappa/Alcantara sports seats, it has very nice dials. Go DSG and the S3 ends up being a £200 showroom tax vs DSG R £500 showroom tax (Manual S3 and Manual R also £500 showroom tax), I like the standard 18" wheels, 3 years breakdown cover included, prefer the front end of the S3 (not by much), toggle navigation (no clumsy touch screen). GFV on Audi's website is massively better than VW's on a 30k miles/3 year basis (£18162 vs £13869 - although that is old R figure as FL figures don't seem to be available right now - can't see it being any better than £16k).

S3 downside: Slightly higher insurance (no ACC sensor as standard, and even if you option it the insurance company won't take it into account), prefer side profile of the R, less standard kit, don't know if Audi have fixed the very open S3's front grille's propensity to allow the intercooler system to get peppered with stones, S3 looks a little slower on paper (they quote 0-62 as 5.3s on the S3 - haven't seen a good reason why, as it is a little lighter - slightly higher gearing than the R?).

The sensible thing to do would be keep my R for 2.5 years to get more wear out of my PSS tyres, let the leasegate stock dissipate that is filtering through right now and order another R or S3 before the next price rise is due.

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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #51 on: 03 February 2017, 23:11 »
The S3 hatch looks wrong imo. Such a bland looking motor. If I were considering an S3, the saloon would be the only one on my radar. By far the best looking in the range. Audi are miserable gits with spec. I'd begrudge paying extra for stuff like auto dimming mirrors... stuff that's standard in a polo ffs.
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #52 on: 04 February 2017, 06:40 »
Doesn't look like the GFV has went up much on the new model, only by around £600 if my maths is correct.
With still only 12% discount ATM it seems like you'd be paying much more pm for a new FL one :cry:
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #53 on: 04 February 2017, 07:16 »
It's gone down Ian, my 3dr DSG R which was £34.4k RRP has a GMFV of £15,100 at 3yrs/30k miles.
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #54 on: 04 February 2017, 09:16 »
It's gone down Ian, my 3dr DSG R which was £34.4k RRP has a GMFV of £15,100 at 3yrs/30k miles.

The prevalent GFV when I got my R in May 15 was about £15600. I will definitely be looking to get rid of mine privately when the time comes for it to go and get whatever I get via a broker. I was hoping to achieve £18k minimum at 3 years old, considering it will have the remainder of a 5 year warranty and 5 year service pack. I wonder whether that's achievable now? Hopefully when the leasegate stock has been through the dealership network the prices will firm up again.
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #55 on: 04 February 2017, 10:38 »

I'm still wondering how the GTD Blueline actually works it really cannot be less polluting by THAT much just by swapping the frikkin wheels.


Possibly a combination of smaller wheels AND low rolling resistance tyres (although we have seen no formal information) its possible the GT and other models get tyres from whatever batch is available. Blueline's will always get "Ecosavers"?
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #56 on: 04 February 2017, 11:43 »

I'm still wondering how the GTD Blueline actually works it really cannot be less polluting by THAT much just by swapping the frikkin wheels.


Possibly a combination of smaller wheels AND low rolling resistance tyres (although we have seen no formal information) its possible the GT and other models get tyres from whatever batch is available. Blueline's will always get "Ecosavers"?

Thanks - I wondered if it was something like the BMW ED or Vauxhall EcoFlex - they always had lower emissions usually by having some extra aerodynamic changes underneath the car (sounds weird, but does seem to work). I wondered if that was the case here too - but then again a Mk7 already has an undertray in the engine bay for example - that's not to keep your shiny engine clean!

No, it still remains to be seen quite how VW launched the Mk7 GTD with absolutely competition slaying CO2 figures which is actually how I ended up with one. Despite not being part of the emissions scandal, 3 years down the line the same model with some different lipstick is almost up there with a GTI for CO2. So much so that they need a new "company car friendly" model to keep selling them.

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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #57 on: 04 February 2017, 12:04 »
S3 looks a little slower on paper (they quote 0-62 as 5.3s on the S3 - haven't seen a good reason why, as it is a little lighter - slightly higher gearing than the R?).


MH, when I had my R I encountered a new S3 (same reg) and we had a little play from a rolling start on an empty duel carriageway, and we were neck and neck the whole way (up to the speed limit of course  :lipsrsealed:) - it was exactly the same speed.  Granted, both were 300ps, so I'd imagine the 310 ones are the same too.

Did I read you wouldn't tick the virtual cockpit in the S3?  Honestly, go have a look at one before you do this, it's awesome!  I still think the R is the better looking of the two cars though.
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #58 on: 04 February 2017, 13:55 »

I'm still wondering how the GTD Blueline actually works it really cannot be less polluting by THAT much just by swapping the frikkin wheels.


Possibly a combination of smaller wheels AND low rolling resistance tyres (although we have seen no formal information) its possible the GT and other models get tyres from whatever batch is available. Blueline's will always get "Ecosavers"?

Thanks - I wondered if it was something like the BMW ED or Vauxhall EcoFlex - they always had lower emissions usually by having some extra aerodynamic changes underneath the car (sounds weird, but does seem to work). I wondered if that was the case here too - but then again a Mk7 already has an undertray in the engine bay for example - that's not to keep your shiny engine clean!

No, it still remains to be seen quite how VW launched the Mk7 GTD with absolutely competition slaying CO2 figures which is actually how I ended up with one. Despite not being part of the emissions scandal, 3 years down the line the same model with some different lipstick is almost up there with a GTI for CO2. So much so that they need a new "company car friendly" model to keep selling them.

Sorry, but there is something MASSIVELY wrong here somewhere.

Do all MK7 have the full under tray and bottom aero things that were standard on the MK5/6 Bluemotion cars? I am sure the R has a half size tray.
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Re: Guess what's available to order tomorrow : )
« Reply #59 on: 04 February 2017, 13:57 »
My GTD I am fairly sure has a full under tray in the engine bay, not sure about an R
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