MK7 GTI - A classic?

[juggler]

Wondered how the MK7 will be looked upon in years to come. Not all have met the bar (MK3/MK4) spring to mind.

The MK7 is my first and can't fault it. Had Impreza WRX and E46 M3. If I had all 3 on the drive I think I'd take the Golf as an all rounder....

[monkeyhanger]

The last classic GTI was the MK2. Cars are like white goods now, and with so much tech on board modern cars and BHP/handling/comfort going up with every iteration (or at least every other iteration), today's MK7 is tomorrow's MK5 (which was a good steer back on course after the MK4 reduced the GTI to a badge on a car with myltiple engine choices). Modern cars are getting number to drive  as they get more sophisticated. Put your foot down in an R or CS/CSS and you've got a few seconds of fun before you hit license losing speeds. Hot hatches used to be more fun because they felt every bit as quick as they are, today's GTI doesn't.

[JoeGTI]

Hard to see the MK7 becoming a "classic" in today's sense of the word tbh. It's so stuffed full of tech and gizmos now, I dread to think what happens to these cars when they're 10+ years old and the electronic handbrake fails or the media unit packs up... you're talking big bucks to fix...

I reckon a very clean MK5 GTI / R32 would potentially be more sought after in years to come than the more modern equivalents. Clean MK5's are pretty rare even now though. As MH said, they're just white goods to most people.

[jjgreenwood]

The last classic GTI was the MK2. Cars are like white goods now, and with so much tech on board modern cars and BHP/handling/comfort going up with every iteration (or at least every other iteration), today's MK7 is tomorrow's MK5 (which was a good steer back on course after the MK4 reduced the GTI to a badge on a car with myltiple engine choices). Modern cars are getting number to drive  as they get more sophisticated. Put your foot down in an R or CS/CSS and you've got a few seconds of fun before you hit license losing speeds. Hot hatches used to be more fun because they felt every bit as quick as they are, today's GTI doesn't.

I wouldn't agree with this. MK5 GTI is a future classic. I think Clubsport will be too and MK6 Edition 35 is holding its money really well.

[Jackie Treehorn]

I guess we have 3 types of "normal" classics these days in my eyes.

Actual classics. everything from a basic mk1 Fiesta or basic mk1 scirocco and older (now going up in value)
Resales classics. Clubsport S (probably), GTi mk1 campaign? E30 M3, Escort RS Turbo, Cosworth (serious money involved but a long time down the road)
Review classics. Clubsport S (probably),  Mk2 GTi 16v, Mk5 GTi people love them and reviewers build it into a classic status even if lots are still around....

As MH says the cars with all the tech don't have the longevity simply due to the cost of long term maintenance,  Some would rather scrap a IS200 Lexus or Saab 95 or future Mk7/8 (when a diesel pump fails or it loses engine compression as it makes it cost prohibitive to fix). 

Saying that the Mk7 might do well as the 40th anniversary car in 20 years with new MQB design techniques (weight, strength) and reviewers do generally like it.  In a way that it (according to reviews) build on the Mk5/6 and not as a step backwards.

[Ooosh]

I think the Clubsport S will be!

[wigit]

I think taking 5-7 the future classics on the GTI and R front

Mk5 Ed30 and Pirelli (especially if a 3 door in graphite blue with nav mfsw and xenons) and R32
Mk6 Ed35 and R
Mk7 CS (depending on options) and CS-S

Speculator prices will die down on the CS-S as you know next year its crown will be scalped at the ring by Renault and Honda.

Having met some friends and tuners at Autosport we had some interesting discussions on the 7R and CS-S

CS-S was a car to divide opinion with most of the tuners being a bit take it or leave it which surprised me.

A number of us had R or still have Rs and consensus was what it was a great car it just doesn't feel that special in a way the mk6 R or a GTI and just doesn't tug on the heart strings (over supply actually was not the factor) and funnily enough a few were ordering M240is for their fix

For me a I think a CS in a heritage colour in 3 doors with 19s is a winner with a manual box and profit will not cloud your judgement

[drisser]

Not sure the CS will ever be a classic or collectable, however limited numbers will help I guess.

The main reason I bought one was because as a car to keep long term it should be hopefully reliable, not silly expensive to run, and agree with you that the desirability will be very option specific.  I felt that 3 door manual with bucket seats were the main must have's and I am sure that if and when I sell it will help to maybe not lose tons of money.

I don't think many cars being made these days will appreciate apart from the select few.  For the price though, even at £30k I do think the CS has a certain desirability lacking in many mainstream hatches these days.

[wigit]

I think a classic and a classic that appreciates in value are two different things.

Mk1 Campaign is similar comparison to the CS as there is always going to be less. The CS in the flesh looks stunning and exterior wise for me edges the CS-S, CS-S will have cult status given it rarity

Another example would be the Megane R26R, whilst not what they cost new their market value is in a different league to the normal R26, for me a true modern classic as for me its the real deal.

[Restlessnative]

This is a classic Golf to me.I had an 8v Mk2 and always envied the much rarer 16v.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lovely-vw-golf-mk2-16v-3-door-gti-in-original-condition-84000miles-not-mk 1-/252715262559?

Totally original.In Helios blue i think the colour is?.Seller sounds like he wants it to go to a good home.
Might even be tempted myself.If only it wasn't way up past Inverness way.
It just oozes class without even trying.