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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #10 on: 05 December 2016, 08:58 »
GT4, reading it back I may have sounded harsh on the Cayman GT4, it is a very good car, that could possibly have been better if Porsche let the engine play more in the upper rev range and a shorter final drive or set of gear ratios.
We both know why Porsche didn't do either of those things and that is not to step on the halo model range where they can make more profit. The 997.2 GT3 RS had shorter gear ratios than the GT3, so they can do this when it suits.

What I was trying to get across with the CS-S is that VW have taken a regular GTi and upped the anti for more serious use. There was no real part of the car that didn't feel up to par, I am talking about engine, ride, steering and overall feedback here.
The only area you could perhaps criticize is that they didn't go far enough in weight reduction, but then removal of sound deadening and headlining soon makes a car tiring on a long road journey, so you need to be a little unhinged to accept this.

I have a 230 bhp Gti PP as my road car, in daily use I have never been amazed at the performance of a Golf R and am fully aware that a well driven GTD will perform much the same as mine, except for economy where I concede.
As a road car I do honestly think the CS-S would grate after a while. Yesterday I drove my GTi over the same route and it was great fun, on UK roads you don't need that much power, just enough to get out of trouble when required, rather than constantly landing in trouble.

The regular GTi has parking sensors and adaptive cruise, I use and rate both highly in a daily driver. Depending on your build, the bolsters of the CS-S seats may become a pain, they will certainly wear more quickly than the regular seat.

Just looking at the camber on the CS-Sset up, you can see this car was developed with the intent to be more of a weapon than the regular GTi.

Do you need another weapon in your armoury alongside the GT4, that is down to you.
In your position, I would take delivery of the car, experience it and then make your judgement, I personally think it will be far better as an occasional car where every drive is an event.
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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #11 on: 05 December 2016, 13:28 »
Thanks Clubsport ... I was thinking CS-S for 3 reasons ...

1) It would be financially a good car to run and have some feel good factor
2) 80% of the time it could replace the GT4 for afternoon/evening blasts and keep mileage down on GT4
3) I do 6 miles a day on a Private estate as my daily commute at under 25 Mph - so could do that job as well

I make maybe 6 journeys a year to see friends/family of over 100 miles and could do that job as well, but also think an RS3 or AMG could do allot of those jobs better .... Your thoughts??

Bottom line is bang for your buck .... ???!!!!!

Andrew

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #12 on: 05 December 2016, 13:50 »
Thanks Clubsport ... I was thinking CS-S for 3 reasons ...

1) It would be financially a good car to run and have some feel good factor
2) 80% of the time it could replace the GT4 for afternoon/evening blasts and keep mileage down on GT4
3) I do 6 miles a day on a Private estate as my daily commute at under 25 Mph - so could do that job as well

I make maybe 6 journeys a year to see friends/family of over 100 miles and could do that job as well, but also think an RS3 or AMG could do allot of those jobs better .... Your thoughts??

Bottom line is bang for your buck .... ???!!!!!

Andrew

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #13 on: 05 December 2016, 14:05 »
Thanks Clubsport ... I was thinking CS-S for 3 reasons ...

1) It would be financially a good car to run and have some feel good factor
2) 80% of the time it could replace the GT4 for afternoon/evening blasts and keep mileage down on GT4
3) I do 6 miles a day on a Private estate as my daily commute at under 25 Mph - so could do that job as well

I make maybe 6 journeys a year to see friends/family of over 100 miles and could do that job as well, but also think an RS3 or AMG could do allot of those jobs better .... Your thoughts??

Bottom line is bang for your buck .... ???!!!!!

Andrew

Honestly, get the car, drive it, tick it off of your list, take your premium to subsidize what you will inevitably lose on your RS3 or AMG. Not a bad way to lose a few quid either!
Bang for the buck, but what if you don't like the CS-S? Will you drive a Fwd Turbo, knowing you have a mid engined flat six in the garage?

I don't know that it is all about £££ keeping the miles low on a GT4.
There are approx 600 GT4 and a good chance of a 981.2 variant, who knows what engine that will have?
If you like the GT4 as much as you appear to, why not enjoy it? With these performance Porsche's the experience gets better the more time you spend behind the wheel, there is a definite learning curve, which keeps them engaging.

You asked for an opinion ex ante, your judgement of the driving experience and usability will determine how long you keep the car.
Either way it will be a good place to have money over the next few years, even if it depreciates, it should be modest.

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #14 on: 05 December 2016, 14:08 »
Thanks Clubsport ... I was thinking CS-S for 3 reasons ...

1) It would be financially a good car to run and have some feel good factor
2) 80% of the time it could replace the GT4 for afternoon/evening blasts and keep mileage down on GT4
3) I do 6 miles a day on a Private estate as my daily commute at under 25 Mph - so could do that job as well

I make maybe 6 journeys a year to see friends/family of over 100 miles and could do that job as well, but also think an RS3 or AMG could do allot of those jobs better .... Your thoughts??

Bottom line is bang for your buck .... ???!!!!!

Andrew

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For 6 miles a day at under 25 mph basically any car will do the job you require keep you dry and save on shoe leather.
For the longer journeys if you wished you could not use the Porsche

The AMG and RS 3 options are both more expensive not as exclusive and will more than likely deprecate at
a greater rate.
Only you can answer what you really want from a car and only by driving the CS will you be able to judge is it the car for you.
It's obvious the CS is highly rated as a drivers car but is that what you need.
Possibly for your commute and the few longer journeys you will take the CS would be wasted - but then so would any performance car.

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #15 on: 05 December 2016, 15:20 »
Who's going to be first to post a lap time on a UK circuit in one of these rather than worrying about the residual value?
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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #16 on: 05 December 2016, 16:20 »
Who's going to be first to post a lap time on a UK circuit in one of these rather than worrying about the residual value?

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #17 on: 05 December 2016, 16:32 »

Honestly, get the car, drive it, tick it off of your list, take your premium to subsidize what you will inevitably lose on your RS3 or AMG. Not a bad way to lose a few quid either!
Bang for the buck, but what if you don't like the CS-S? Will you drive a Fwd Turbo, knowing you have a mid engined flat six in the garage?

I don't know that it is all about £££ keeping the miles low on a GT4.
There are approx 600 GT4 and a good chance of a 981.2 variant, who knows what engine that will have?
If you like the GT4 as much as you appear to, why not enjoy it? With these performance Porsche's the experience gets better the more time you spend behind the wheel, there is a definite learning curve, which keeps them engaging.

You asked for an opinion ex ante, your judgement of the driving experience and usability will determine how long you keep the car.
Either way it will be a good place to have money over the next few years, even if it depreciates, it should be modest.
Your reply reminded me so much of the video from Mr JWW I watched this morning about his 18000 miles so far in his  GT3. https://youtu.be/r-cQhJj1xlc
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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #18 on: 05 December 2016, 17:15 »
Thanks Clubsport ... I was thinking CS-S for 3 reasons ...

1) It would be financially a good car to run and have some feel good factor
2) 80% of the time it could replace the GT4 for afternoon/evening blasts and keep mileage down on GT4
3) I do 6 miles a day on a Private estate as my daily commute at under 25 Mph - so could do that job as well

I make maybe 6 journeys a year to see friends/family of over 100 miles and could do that job as well, but also think an RS3 or AMG could do allot of those jobs better .... Your thoughts??

Bottom line is bang for your buck .... ???!!!!!

Andrew

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Re: Driving impressions of the Clubsport-S.
« Reply #19 on: 05 December 2016, 18:43 »
Well........I've not been far in it today but I am thoroughly loving it

Roads around here are dreadful at best and I've been plopping around in "Comfort" mode of all things

It rides the undulations beautifully and cuts out the sythn engine noise so all I hear is tyre roar and the lovely exhaust note.....What a great car, the car I've been waiting for since I sold my R26R in 2010