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Offline waxandhide

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Ongoing Fault
« on: 15 November 2016, 13:42 »
Hi all,
Ever since I was a little boy, I've wanted a Golf Gti and I finally managed to buy one last July from Citygate VW Watford. I bought a Mk6 5-door, DSG in black with full leather and sat-nav... a lovely car. The car had around 49k miles when I bought it and had a full documented VW service history. It had a number of fairly minor issues when I took delivery of it and I took it back to Citygate to sort these out (including the tracking being off quite massively - not good coming from a main dealer).

2 months later, in September of last year, I took the car on a road trip to the South of France. One day, I returned to the car park in Nice where I'd parked the Golf, only to find that it was crank but wouldn't start. After a couple of minutes, I tried putting my foot down hard on the accelerator and the car roared into life. Thinking it might be down to the fact that it was in a hot car park, I thought it was odd but didn't do anything more about it.

Over the rest of my holiday, the fault repeated itself a number of times and so on my return to the UK, I booked it into my local dealer (Lookers VW Battersea) to have a look at it. After having the car for a couple of days, they couldn't find the fault and so I took the car back. The fault continued and so I took a number of videos of it happening to backup my claim.

The car went back to Lookers again at the end of the year and they still couldn't find it. Skip forward to this year and the fault was still happening. Even though this definitely wasn't right, I learnt to put up with it. Eventually it started happening more and more and I built up more videos of it taking place. At this stage, I decided to get VW Customer Services involved and they have been liaising with Lookers to get it sorted. Another couple of visits to the garage this year (including one to VW Motorline Coulsdon for a major service where I asked them to look into it - but to no avail) and a month ago or so, Lookers managed to get the fault to repeat itself for them. They thought it might be a temperature sensor and so replaced this. Alas, the fault didn't seem to have been solved and to this day, it is still happening.

I appreciate that an intermittent fault is hard to diagnose but I feel like VW and the dealers are looking at me like I've made this up (even though they've managed to replicate it), hence the video documentation. Each time the car has been in (probably a total of a month since I've had it), it has cost be both time and money as they have charged me for diagnostic time and parts that may not have actually ended up needing replacing. I have been given a courtesy car each time although this has not been comparable to the Golf nor did I buy the Golf to keep taking it in and out of the garage.

I have now got to the end of my tether with VW and completely lost my trust in the brand largely down to their dealers. The last time the car was at Lookers a couple of weeks ago, a couple of days after collecting it, the car broke down and I had to call VW Assistance out (it's still under an extended warranty) who found that the oil breather pipe hadn't been connected properly and had caused the car to misfire.

In any normal situation, I would sell the car and move on at this stage, however I can't sell a car privately to someone knowing that a fault exists. I have had part ex quotes from VW dealers and they are £2.5/3k less than the market value leaving me with a shortfall.

I have now proposed to VW Customer Service that Citygate either take the car back from me or give me the retail price as a trade in against another one. I'm struggling to get anywhere with them and would have thought that they'd be willing to get themselves back into a good consumer/brand position given the recent emissions scandal.

I would massively welcome any help or advice as i'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do next!

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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #1 on: 15 November 2016, 14:18 »
Very poor customer service from VW again.

People on here have had joy making a noise on VW Customer Service Twitter account. Upload the video/s somewhere so that you can link to them.

It's tempting to just chuck it at webuyanycar and be done with it but as you say, there will be a financial loss.

Have they ever come back with fault code details when they charge you for diagnosis? I would be tempted to buy/borrow a cheap code reader to get some idea yourself. In warranty still you could argue why you are having to pay for diagnosis and no resolution!
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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #2 on: 15 November 2016, 15:01 »
It is horrendously frustrating and during my ownership, the car has spent almost as much time in the garage as with me! I've been on their and the garages Twitter but to no real avail and actually what I really want now is for the selling dealer to take the car back and give me a full refund for it or replace it for something similar given that it hasn't really functioned as it should since I've owned it.

I've copied a link to videos of it happening here - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6kvhdbbJMtjMENPTEk1eV8xcWc?usp=sharing

If anyone has experienced the same fault, it'd be good to hear!

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« Reply #3 on: 15 November 2016, 15:18 »
I'll say this before Rhyso beats me to it - Citizens Advice! https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/ Has to be worth a chat with your local branch.
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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #4 on: 15 November 2016, 18:37 »
Yep - I think it's probably going that way!

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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #5 on: 15 November 2016, 21:54 »
That's a real shame...I hope you get this sorted.

Like above it might be good to scan the car for faults yourself. Or reach out to someone who has the right equipment to scan it. I had my car scanned by Vagwerkes (they have a website) so maybe try them.

Could it be the fuel pump? Or fuel filter needs replacing...?

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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #6 on: 16 November 2016, 12:23 »
Hi, having read your initial post, I'm shocked at the VW service the dealers have provided you. I would say Citygate VW Watford are to blame for selling on the problematic car in the first place. Plus the owner before them most probably knew the cars problems and got rid! But you've been left with the ongoing issue. I just hope you get the issue resolved or get your money back from the dealer. Which ever way, I wish you luck for the future. I won't be going for my 4th golf next.  :sad:

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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #7 on: 16 November 2016, 13:02 »
I'll say this before Rhyso beats me to it - Citizens Advice! https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/ Has to be worth a chat with your local branch.

Lol!

Close JV, but its Trading Standards within your local council that are the best people to go to  :wink: :smiley:

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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #8 on: 16 November 2016, 14:01 »
AAAARGH!  :grin:

Too much of this p!ss poor dealer service going on.
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Re: Ongoing Fault
« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2016, 10:35 »
Its your fuel pump bro...email me on faisal_bashir90@hotmail.com. i can send you a video of how mine was which the way you described is VERY similar...its definately your fuel pump..get vw to check it..ill also send you a video of my pump..