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Offline mcmaddy

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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #40 on: 30 October 2016, 12:29 »
Every man and next doors dog has either an R or a gtd where as you don't see many gti's. At least I haven't. For every 10 or 20 Rs I might see 1 gti and even rarer a pp gti.
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #41 on: 30 October 2016, 12:52 »
Every man and next doors dog has either an R or a gtd where as you don't see many gti's. At least I haven't. For every 10 or 20 Rs I might see 1 gti and even rarer a pp gti.

Most Mk7 GTI are PP I think.
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #42 on: 30 October 2016, 12:56 »
Every man and next doors dog has either an R or a gtd where as you don't see many gti's. At least I haven't. For every 10 or 20 Rs I might see 1 gti and even rarer a pp gti.

There's 4 in North Shields that I know of, 1 red, one black and 2 CSG - and they're all PP, there are 2 other Rs I see regularly in the same area. I see more Rs on my commute, but around the doors there seems more GTIs around me.

Lots and lots of GTDs everywhere though, and why not, if I was after another single scroll turbo diesel, i'd probably be back in a GTD, with a DTUK box on.
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #43 on: 30 October 2016, 13:44 »
For a sensible person or anyone with a company car allowance that doesn't run into silly amounts then the GTD is a very compelling buy.
The R is popular because of it's relative affordability compared to the GTI taking into account the extra 80PS and driven axle.

However when I had my GTI I hardly saw any about but they're getting a lot more prolific in numbers now. I have one about 100 yards from me as the crow flies at home. Well, more likely a pigeon as there seems to be more of those than crows around here.
Plus I see numerous ones on my daily commute, nearly as many now as R's. GTI's that is, not pigeons or crows.

People moan about GTDs and R's being too common which I find odd.
Golfs are popular cars full stop and you see lots of them about in general. They're probably one of the biggest selling hatchbacks nowadays and when I think back to the mk2 Golf heydays 20% or so of all Golf sales were GTI's.
Performance Golfs were never meant to be exclusive and just because there are lots of them around doesn't devalue them - in fact there's always a healthy second hand demand which keeps depreciation fairly steady on all the models of Golf.

Obviously not CSS's as they're hewn from solid (but special extra lightweight) gold so will only ever appreciate  :rolleyes:
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #44 on: 30 October 2016, 13:55 »
Every man and next doors dog has either an R or a gtd where as you don't see many gti's. At least I haven't. For every 10 or 20 Rs I might see 1 gti and even rarer a pp gti.

There's 4 in North Shields that I know of, 1 red, one black and 2 CSG - and they're all PP, there are 2 other Rs I see regularly in the same area. I see more Rs on my commute, but around the doors there seems more GTIs around me.

Lots and lots of GTDs everywhere though, and why not, if I was after another single scroll turbo diesel, i'd probably be back in a GTD, with a DTUK box on.

Funny you should mention single scroll turbo diesels, a good friend of mine has just had a couple of short term lease BMW 125d's.
He said they really need to be worked quite hard to get the best out of them which is unusual for modern Diesels which seem to be the opposite.
He said one was really quite quick and the other a bit lethargic but both could be spun up through the first three gears without the car physically moving quite easily!
He's now driving a Focus for a while which is a bit of a strange car - it's black with black wheels with a red roof and brake calipers! Almost as exclusive as a ClubSport!

I think a GTD with DTUK box is still one of the best options going for pure fun versus cost.
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #45 on: 30 October 2016, 16:28 »
Gov data

2015 there were 10k R's registered/taxed/sorn
2016 there were 12.5k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTD 20k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTD 23k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTi PP 2k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTi PP 2.3k registered/taxed/sorn



 

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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #46 on: 30 October 2016, 17:00 »
Interesting and certainly backs up what I'm seeing on my local roads. Obviously people in and around Sunderland don't buy gti's  :wink:
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #47 on: 30 October 2016, 17:04 »
Gov data

2015 there were 10k R's registered/taxed/sorn
2016 there were 12.5k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTD 20k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTD 23k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTi PP 2k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTi PP 2.3k registered/taxed/sorn
Say's it all really. 5/6 R's for every GTI you see.
So I wasn't imagining it after all :grin:
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #48 on: 30 October 2016, 20:06 »
Gov data

2015 there were 10k R's registered/taxed/sorn
2016 there were 12.5k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTD 20k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTD 23k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTi PP 2k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTi PP 2.3k registered/taxed/sorn

Any numbers on the non PP GTIs? I can't believe GTDs outnumber GTIs 10 to 1.

On "How Many left", there are 2k "GTI Performance S-A" in addition to the "GTI Performance" - S-A = Semi automatic = DSG? Looks to be too hard to differentiate MK7 GTI (non PP) to the other marques within those stats.

Prior to the arrival of the R (and then the dirt cheap leases), I doubt the GTI was outnumbered by GTD by more than 3 to 1, probably more like 2 to 1.
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Re: Possibly being offered a Clubsport S
« Reply #49 on: 30 October 2016, 20:22 »
Gov data

2015 there were 10k R's registered/taxed/sorn
2016 there were 12.5k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTD 20k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTD 23k registered/taxed/sorn

2015 GTi PP 2k registered/taxed/sorn
2016 GTi PP 2.3k registered/taxed/sorn

Any numbers on the non PP GTIs? I can't believe GTDs outnumber GTIs 10 to 1.
I can.  I'm tripping over them in Manchester!
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