Possibly being offered a Clubsport S

[clubsport]

I see there is a CS-S on PH that has been increased to £43'995 ... 

That's a shame, it puts it further out of the reach of enthusiasts as the flippers work out their ROI on their finance payments! 

[TurboTrev]

Advertising it at a silly price is one thing, but getting the silly price is another.

[GT4]

Got to be a good thing IMO ... Ok - I am biased but it only lends greater gravitas to the GTi family IMO ... Clubsport 40's should see an uplift and R values look even stronger in the light of £40k plus CS-S cars ... 

[clubsport]

GT4 all of this talking the values up, you sound more like a flipper with every post!

[vipergts]

Got to be a good thing IMO ... Ok - I am biased but it only lends greater gravitas to the GTi family IMO ... Clubsport 40's should see an uplift and R values look even stronger in the light of £40k plus CS-S cars ... 

I can see Clubsport 40 being stronger but not the R as there are too many around.

Supply and demand

[GT4]

Now that the CS-S has just finished Runner Up in 2016 ECOTY i am sure we will see more £40k CS-S cars ... I wonder if the OP is taking the dealership up on their offer of a CS-S ... 

[TurboTrev]

I think the R will devalue more slowly for a while due to the lull in production while VW sort out the facelift.  As vipergts says, there are too many R's around, one of the reasons I sold mine, great car but too common.  Clubsports will always devalue slower than a GTI, history shows us that and I think now that VW have stopped clubsport orders, I suspect there will be nowhere near 1,000 imported, more likely to be around 600.  The highest number I've seen is in the low 400s and there can't be that many more customer orders being built.

[jjgreenwood]

I can't see R dropping off a cliff. Yes there are a lot of them but they are still good value for money for a 300bhp 4wd car with all the latest technology.  I can't really see that changing any time soon.

[monkeyhanger]

I can't see R dropping off a cliff. Yes there are a lot of them but they are still good value for money for a 300bhp 4wd car with all the latest technology.  I can't really see that changing any time soon.

I'd agree with that, it has the supply, but also the demand for that supply. On the used market people will want it more than a standard GTI or PP, and will be prepared to pay significantly more for an extra 70/80ps and 4WD. There are many more GTDs than GTIs and i'd still expect a GTD to be worth slightly more.

Anyone got an idea about ratios of GTD:GTI:R out there in MK7? I'd hazard a guess at 5 GTDs:1 GTI: 2 R.

I do think that the lease deals available made some people think that there are more Rs out there than non performance Golfs, the rea numbers are likely much lower.

The CSS won't be a popular car to the masses due to its lack of practicality (and the majority of people not knowing it from a standard GTI when they see one on the road), but due to the limited number out there, every one will find a willing buyer at a strong price - it is a proper niche car.

[jjgreenwood]

I can't see R dropping off a cliff. Yes there are a lot of them but they are still good value for money for a 300bhp 4wd car with all the latest technology.  I can't really see that changing any time soon.

I'd agree with that, it has the supply, but also the demand for that supply. On the used market people will want it more than a standard GTI or PP, and will be prepared to pay significantly more for an extra 70/80ps and 4WD. There are many more GTDs than GTIs and i'd still expect a GTD to be worth slightly more.

Anyone got an idea about ratios of GTD:GTI:R out there in MK7? I'd hazard a guess at 5 GTDs:1 GTI: 2 R.

I do think that the lease deals available made some people think that there are more Rs out there than non performance Golfs, the rea numbers are likely much lower.

The CSS won't be a popular car to the masses due to its lack of practicality (and the majority of people not knowing it from a standard GTI when they see one on the road), but due to the limited number out there, every one will find a willing buyer at a strong price - it is a proper niche car.

Roughly 5k GTI, 20k GTD & 13k Golf R according to howmanyleft and excluding earlier models