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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #10 on: 03 October 2016, 07:27 »
No, no spacers. Any chance u think I'll get stealers to fix under warranty?
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #11 on: 03 October 2016, 10:08 »
Have you experienced any noticeable effects such as increased vibration or noise?  The reason I ask is that a friend of mine was experiencing these effects on an A5 and the dealer decided to replace a front wheel bearing.

This didn't cure the problem and eventually it was attributed to saw tooth tyre.  The reason for the tyre problem was never fully understood but incorrect tyre pressures and possible manufacturing defects were suggested.

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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #12 on: 03 October 2016, 10:48 »
Saw Tooth tyre wear is just normal wear for the non driven wheels, ie rears on a front wheel drive car.
It occurs especially if the tread pattern has non connected blocks in the inside of the tyre.
If the tyres have a non-directional tread pattern then you can switch tyres from left to right to even up the wear.

Here is a description from Continental

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What is heel and toe wear?

“Saw-tooth” wear is a wear pattern caused under normal usage with normal suspension settings. This is the outwardly visible (and audible) manifestation of various distortional forces at work on the tread. To explain this, it is better to first say something about ”tread design”.

Tread grooves and sipes – a source of noise – are absolutely essential in ensuring safety on wet and flooded roads. In the case of low-profile tyres in particular, a higher percentage of tread void is necessary to take up the water and to improve the protection against aquaplaning. Cross-grooves for water drainage form “free-standing blocks” in the shoulder area. These shoulder blocks can wear to leave the “sawtooth” pattern as a result of rolling mechanisms under certain operating conditions. These operating conditions include: Long, straight journeys at constant speed Moderate driving style Suspension geometry (alignment/camber).

As the tyre rolls along the road, the free-standing blocks deform as they near the tyre‘s contact patch. They are compressed as they come into contact with the road. As they lose road contact they “rub” the surface while snapping back into their original shape.

The result is higher wear on the block run-out edge. This wear pattern is more likely to occur on non-driven wheel positions. A minor amount of “saw-tooth” pattern wear is normal and has no discernible effects on comfort. More conspicuous wear of this kind points to specific operating conditions (improper inflation, excessive toe-in, low-wear applications).

Tip: In order to gain even tyre wear, the position of the tyres on the car should be changed at regular intervals (unless otherwise recommended by the vehicle manufacturer). The position of the tyres should be changed in good time, at the latest when changing summer/winter tyres.
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #13 on: 03 October 2016, 12:00 »
Interestingly the A5 was a Quattro proving that 4wd isn't immune from the problem.  It had most likely been driven "Long, straight journeys at constant speed Moderate driving style"

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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #14 on: 03 October 2016, 15:04 »
I'm not saying that the dampers are the issue but my GTD had the rear pair replaced at about 18 months old under warranty... as they were defective and causing a strange squeaking noise and causing a feeling of slight instability at the rear on high frequency road imperfections e.g. concrete motorways...

4 wheel alignment would be a worthwhile check... however, I'm not sure who much adjustment there is on the Golf... but as the statement from Continental suggests you could be running a little too much toe-in on the rear...
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #15 on: 05 October 2016, 17:44 »
Interestingly the A5 was a Quattro proving that 4wd isn't immune from the problem.  It had most likely been driven "Long, straight journeys at constant speed Moderate driving style"

Audi A5 Quattro is not permanent 4WD - hence most of power goes to front most of the time.
Subarus are much less prone to saw tooth, spoke with Subaru dealer in quite a lot of detail when I was looking for a new car.
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #16 on: 05 October 2016, 19:21 »
Stealer said they could investigate, but said they were within tollerence at service couple months ago. Visit to my trusted local garage for second opinion required!
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #17 on: 05 October 2016, 19:32 »
I had bad saw toothing on the rears recently. I blame the ultra soft Cont 5s. Fronts were also worn down to the limit after 7k. I've been a fan of Conti tyres up until now.

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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #18 on: 05 October 2016, 19:35 »
I've got the dreaded Bridgestones on the rear still. We're 5mm on inside and 4.5mm on outside at service.
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Re: Saw tooth rear tyres
« Reply #19 on: 10 October 2016, 20:38 »
I was getting some droning noise from the rear end so took it in for the service department to check out.
Turns out its being caused by saw tooth tyre wear. Had a chat with the tech and he said it is quite normal after 30k on the rears as the suspension setup is configured for laden weight.

Still its an excuse to get shot of the bridgestones. Will have to investigate what will be a good replacement. I have Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s on the front.