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Offline TurboTrev

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #10 on: 21 September 2016, 21:19 »
Time might prove me wrong, but I don't think there will be much chance of making a quick profit on a CSS.  I'm sure that it will be quite sought after in the near future if you were to resell, as well as many years down the line and I think it value will hold up quite well, but buying it to make a profit, unlikely I would say.  Time will tell.

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #11 on: 21 September 2016, 21:36 »
I think it will become a bit like the g60 and g60 limited

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the g60 ..?

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« Reply #12 on: 21 September 2016, 21:57 »
As much as we enjoy the Golfs, none of them have exactly out performed as investments.

e.g. If you bought a desirable 1983 Mk1 GTi Campaign, these were available new for <£7500.

If you adjust for inflation £7500 in 1983 is equivalent to £23,920 in today's money.

You would still have to service, mot a car for it to be worth anything today and there are not many immaculate Mk1 available for >£15k today.

For example if you perform the same calculation with some Ferrari, some air cooled 911 you could make a case for appreciation over inflation adjusted purchase price.

The closest car I can compare to the CS-S is the Audi A1 quattro of 2012.
Audi produced 333 of these (all lhd) with 19 coming to the UK at a cost of £41k.

4 years on and sub 10k miles cars come up rarely at low £30k's....maybe you would get your money back on an unused car that sat in a collection?

On that basis, I can see a CS-s holding it' money, but don't see it appreciating much, it won't be long before the next set of mega tyres reduces ring times on the next Ring spec hot hatch.

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #13 on: 21 September 2016, 22:18 »
I hear what you say Paul but I think the big difference here is that VW has never produced a car such as the CSS before (though still missing the cage)

It's the first of it's kind. I'm pretty sure the Megane R26R is still worth the 22k it was new if it were in great condition with low miles (but I can't recall whether that was dear then)

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #14 on: 21 September 2016, 22:32 »
I think it will become a bit like the g60 and g60 limited

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the g60 ..?

The g60, g60 limited and the rallye were mk2 golfs with a 1.8 supercharged engine, they aren't very common especially g60 limiteds (they only made about 70 i think).
They are worth significantly more than a gti.
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« Reply #15 on: 22 September 2016, 07:24 »
I think it will become a bit like the g60 and g60 limited

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the g60 ..?

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #16 on: 22 September 2016, 08:32 »
I like the idea of limited builds and the value they bring to ownership. I have had S54 Z3 M Coupe, M3 CSL, 1M, Carrera GTS and now GT4 so its become somewhat of a hobby making money out of Ownership ...

I think you are looking in the wrong place for this sort of thing.

As much as I love my Golf, its a Golf, its the peoples' car like it's father.

The only way I'd guess you could make money from a CS-S is to get it and then sell it almost immediately with just delivery mileage. Its probably not as good a kill like that as the latest Ferrari, but the strategy is the same, albeit it with a much smaller pot on the table.

I'm sure BMW or Porsche have another limited edition coming out soon.
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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #17 on: 22 September 2016, 12:13 »
Spot on answer from clubsport I think, especially the A1 comparison.

I don't think a Golf, any version, from new has ever gone up in value.

Special editions just lose value at a slightly lower rate. Good 14 year old mk4 GTI now 2k - good 25th anni - 4k.

Again, as clubsport says, adjusted for time, I don't think any Golf has gone beyond it's original cost. All that you see is a bounce back from the bottom of the market. Mk1 and mk2 values have been rising for a few years now. Mk3 probably hit rock bottom about a year ago. Mk4's are there now. Sub 1k for a perfectly usable (not 'mint') mk4 1.8T.

There will be people trying to speculate on the CSS - maybe for the first time ever you could make a couple of thousand, or keep it for a year and it be worth the same. Not a chance of seeing GT4 type madness.

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #18 on: 22 September 2016, 14:58 »
I think it will become a bit like the g60 and g60 limited

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the g60 ..?

The g60, g60 limited and the rallye were mk2 golfs with a 1.8 supercharged engine, they aren't very common especially g60 limiteds (they only made about 70 i think).
They are worth significantly more than a gti.
The limited was all for vw upper managemnt aswell, dont think any were actually for the UK but there are a couple here.
But on the css i agree that they wont go for more than original purchase price but will hold value.

Amd as jv and clubsport have mentioned its not often it happens, I think even vintage aircooled vw stuff is hit and miss.
All I can think of is the 60s busses.
Maybe the css will become an investment but like Any limited addition car it is a collector that wants them, or will want them

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Re: GTI Clubsport S - Opinions & Feedback
« Reply #19 on: 22 September 2016, 15:13 »
I don't agree with the Audi A1 comparison simply because the car looks like a shoe, not only that but the Golf has a much much wider and enthusiastic following

The CSS will make overs without doubt but only if with delivery miles etc. I've already been offered overs for mine but I'm keeping it