Golf R... Why buy a Golf GTI?

[Marcus P]

I'd like to think of us as performance car owners. I'd never tie myself to one brand but  have loved my time in my ED30 and GTI PP and will surely be back to VW at some point.

[Brenbo]

Only chipping with well thought words of wisdom as I have a Golf R on it's way and need to justify ordering it. 

[kalimon]

You won't be tripping over them like you do with the R

Yawn.

Should have added 'only joking' to my post, just for you Rebecca

I'm not the only R owner on here, there's a few of us.

You're not kidding

[Booth11]

Like to think of us a MK 7 Golf 'performance variants' owners

Love my GTD and waiting to see if love the upcoming R as much as stay in the club 

Yes I totally agree, we all have Mk7 Golf Performance variants - all brilliant cars in their own right, and whichever one you choose to drive, like to think there is a mutual respect amongst owners on here, which is why the 'broken record' comments about common as muck Rs are a bit tiresome. 

But ignore me, I'm just in a bad mood because I haven't got mine atm, due to other idiot drivers that keep "tripping over" it. 

[Booth11]

You won't be tripping over them like you do with the R

Yawn.

Should have added 'only joking' to my post, just for you Rebecca

I'm not the only R owner on here, there's a few of us.

You're not kidding

One of the reasons I decided to spend more time over on the R forum was some time ago sensed that GTI owners on here were getting bored of all the R talk and this is the GTI forum.  But still like this forum so nice to be on here without the usual cliched R quips.

[Bubba Nutkin]

Can I ask a question purely out of curiosity?
Is the R's higher power over the GTI just a case of a higher state of tune, or is the R engine entirely different?
If the former, then would an aftermarket remap to a GTI give you the R power but with the GTI styling?
Obviously you wouldn't get the 4 wheel drive, but how easy is it to get R power with GTI looks?  Or isn't it that simple (yes I know you'd risk your warranty, I'm thinking of at the 3 year point)?
Bubba.

[GTD1414]

Can I ask a question purely out of curiosity?
Is the R's higher power over the GTI just a case of a higher state of tune, or is the R engine entirely different?
If the former, then would an aftermarket remap to a GTI give you the R power but with the GTI styling?
Obviously you wouldn't get the 4 wheel drive, but how easy is it to get R power with GTI looks?  Or isn't it that simple (yes I know you'd risk your warranty, I'm thinking of at the 3 year point)?
Bubba.

Yea its called the GTI Clubsport matey 

[Booth11]

Can I ask a question purely out of curiosity?
Is the R's higher power over the GTI just a case of a higher state of tune, or is the R engine entirely different?
If the former, then would an aftermarket remap to a GTI give you the R power but with the GTI styling?
Obviously you wouldn't get the 4 wheel drive, but how easy is it to get R power with GTI looks?  Or isn't it that simple (yes I know you'd risk your warranty, I'm thinking of at the 3 year point)?
Bubba.

Yes the GTI and the R share the same EA888 TSI  engine but tuned to different degrees. In addition to that the R has other modified/uprated components - namely:  cylinder head, camshaft, exhaust valves, valve seats and springs, pistons, injection valves and larger intercooler and IHI turbocharger.

[JoeGTI]

As Rebecca says, there's lots of differences in the internals, it's not as simple as remapping the GTI engine. The Clubsport has a "boost" thingy that gives you 290bhp for a few seconds only (?) but it's 265bhp most of the time. Biggest issue with trying to squeeze more power from the GTI is traction, all that power going to the front wheels only.

[Daz Auto]

One of the reasons I decided to spend more time over on the R forum was some time ago sensed that GTI owners on here were getting bored of all the R talk and this is the GTI forum.  But still like this forum so nice to be on here without the usual cliched R quips.

... funny that!

I always sensed that the GTI owners looked down on the GTD owners.

Reminds me of this sketch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VxkltwS9g0

But lets face it, the Golf R is very much the Daddy!

Though I feel that the GTI is still the slightly more practical warm hatch.