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Jackie Treehorn

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #10 on: 22 June 2016, 19:46 »
I think you may find Eco has no impact on power, meaning the car does not have reduced power it simply adjusts throttle position impact, but not power/performance. 

It also does a little to the corner lights, stop start, thermal management and enhanced auxiliary heating, for me on a long 1000 mile trip it is better as cruise control is in a more relaxed "lift off and gradual regain setting". 

Sport has similarly little impact on power/performance.

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #11 on: 22 June 2016, 21:49 »
Eco feels sluggish and all the electric things operate at a power saving mode or are switched off like the cornering lights. Also the fuel saving is outweighed by the cost of replacing the brakes as the bloody thing coasts so no engine braking.

Sport makes you sound like you are a spong around towns as it keeps the revs too high :grin:. So I have everything in Sport except the engine on the Individual setting.

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #12 on: 23 June 2016, 06:41 »
Surely on long motorway journeys Eco is better?
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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #13 on: 23 June 2016, 13:21 »
Never had my GTD in Eco. If you want economy surely you should be looking at a Bluemotion or GTE?  :laugh:

p.s what are the differences (GTD) between normal and sport mode except for the soundactor and heavier steering?

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #14 on: 23 June 2016, 16:10 »
I think you may find Eco has no impact on power, meaning the car does not have reduced power it simply adjusts throttle position impact, but not power/performance. 


So the settings don't change the ECU map at all? It simply changes the throttle response?

I thought I had read similar but on various threads / forums posters talk about it changing maps!
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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #15 on: 23 June 2016, 17:30 »
I think its more down to throttle position (like some BMW M Cars), 10% throttle registers 30% in sport mode, 50% throttle, 100% throttle position etc.  I could be wrong but the reason I say this is because most of the time this button for sport mode stuff, doesn't relate to quicker times but a perception of improved performance.

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #16 on: 23 June 2016, 17:54 »
"Sport" engine mode is a fly by wire throttle mapping - thats all, not an engine mapping. Its like a pedal box does...

As for the DCC suspension and Top Gear laps.... DCC is Dynamic - hence the name. You can start in "comfort" but chuck it into a corner and it will react the same. The initial rebound damping is all you change - to soften up the bumpy road. It doesn't effect the grip effect of the suspension, hence the near the same lap times.
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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #17 on: 23 June 2016, 17:58 »
I think you may find Eco has no impact on power, meaning the car does not have reduced power it simply adjusts throttle position impact, but not power/performance. 


So the settings don't change the ECU map at all? It simply changes the throttle response?

I thought I had read similar but on various threads / forums posters talk about it changing maps!

Technically speaking it switches the throttle response map in the ecu. the effect is as described though.

Roughly speaking, if you were to physically press the pedal half way then the different maps change how much throttle this actually delivers, so ECU may give 30%, Normal 50% and sport 70%.

Compressing the values in the map makes the throttle response feel more urgent and vice versa.


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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #18 on: 23 June 2016, 17:59 »
Never had my GTD in Eco. If you want economy surely you should be looking at a Bluemotion or GTE?  :laugh:

p.s what are the differences (GTD) between normal and sport mode except for the soundactor and heavier steering?

If you have the dynamic chassis it also adjusts the damping rates according to the selected profile.

On the GTD with sport and sound pack, sport mode turns the noise generator up a notch or 10.

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Re: eco v standard
« Reply #19 on: 23 June 2016, 19:08 »
Surely on long motorway journeys Eco is better?

Yes it will be you're correct (all things being equal)

"Sport" engine mode is a fly by wire throttle mapping - thats all, not an engine mapping. Its like a pedal box does...


Thats how i see it too.