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Offline Optimus prime

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GTD Fuel economy
« on: 19 June 2016, 12:19 »
So having sold my GTD last month and returned to BMW.  I have only recently been able to compare MPG with brim to brim calculations.  To my amazement my BMW 335D xdrive returns almost the same mpg as the GTD over the same 300 mile round trip (46 mpg).  Considering the BMW is 313bhp with a heavier chassis and permanent 4 wheel drive it proves that the GTD is not all it is cracked up to be.  In addition the BM has a 0-60 time of 4.8 secs.  So anyone considering a change to a 4 wheel drive saloon with amazing performance and economy I would suggest a test drive.

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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #1 on: 19 June 2016, 13:15 »
I just moved from a GTD to an R, and I cannot say a bad word about the GTD.
In terms of a hot (ish) hatch it had it all, bearing in mind there is always something better, faster and efficient it was a very rounded car.
I think the BMW salons are a different class and they look very dated too imho, particularly the 1 and 3 series.
Nice car, faster, more efficient but I for one am happy with the performance golfs .... For now.
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #2 on: 19 June 2016, 13:15 »
It's probably £10,000 more expensive than a GTD though, so that rules that one out :smiley:
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #3 on: 19 June 2016, 13:20 »
So having sold my GTD last month and returned to BMW.  I have only recently been able to compare MPG with brim to brim calculations.  To my amazement my BMW 335D xdrive returns almost the same mpg as the GTD over the same 300 mile round trip (46 mpg).  Considering the BMW is 313bhp with a heavier chassis and permanent 4 wheel drive it proves that the GTD is not all it is cracked up to be.  In addition the BM has a 0-60 time of 4.8 secs.  So anyone considering a change to a 4 wheel drive saloon with amazing performance and economy I would suggest a test drive.

Yes they are quick but how much was it? Did you spec it up? For a car the size of the 3 series I'd rather go with smaller Golf R and even with the obvious spec upgrades I would still have several ££££'s to spen on the extra cost of fuel, and have the sound.

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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #4 on: 19 June 2016, 13:40 »
Just thinking about the wow factor also I don't think I've ever walked up to a 3 series and said 'wow'  they kind of sit with the Laguna's  or whatever they call them now, a bit bland.
At least the Golf always had and still has that 'I want one'  aspirational feeling right from the MK1 GTI.

Even with the GTD people would often comment 'nice car' as it looks pretty damn good and drives near the GTI with better efficiency, albeit not as good as the aforementioned BMW.

I've no doubt the BMW is good, just not my cup of tea.
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #5 on: 19 June 2016, 14:27 »
I wonder how the 330/335d compares on fuel economy with a 125d.
A friend of mine is running a 125d as a company car at the moment and says it pulls like a train.
Being as the 125d is more comparable to a GTD DSG (the latter with a remap!) in performance and size, and is a four cylinder motor compared to the lovely 6 cylinder in the 3 series.
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #6 on: 19 June 2016, 20:04 »
The BMW is a quick barge, quick in a straight line at least but sitting pretty high on its springs. As a motorway miler i'd say the BMW might be the better option, but you'll have more fun in an R if/when you want to fling it about a bit. They're 2 completely different cars, albeit with similar outputs.
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #7 on: 19 June 2016, 20:59 »
The BMW is a quick barge, quick in a straight line at least but sitting pretty high on its springs. As a motorway miler i'd say the BMW might be the better option, but you'll have more fun in an R if/when you want to fling it about a bit. They're 2 completely different cars, albeit with similar outputs.


Yes I agree but being xdrive I have total 4 wheel drive flexibility, it also has sports damper control.  The 4 wheel drive is a 60/40 split in normal running but shifts power to which ever wheels that needs extra almost instantly.  Coupled with the 8 speed sports transmission & twin turbo's the power delivery in sport + mode is unbelievable.  4 Pot bembo's on the front make it stop just as quick

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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #8 on: 19 June 2016, 21:32 »
^ Auto only is the biggest reason i'd really not want one - how well equipped is the 335d as standard?
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Re: GTD Fuel economy
« Reply #9 on: 20 June 2016, 07:30 »
The BMW is a quick barge, quick in a straight line at least but sitting pretty high on its springs. As a motorway miler i'd say the BMW might be the better option, but you'll have more fun in an R if/when you want to fling it about a bit. They're 2 completely different cars, albeit with similar outputs.


Yes I agree but being xdrive I have total 4 wheel drive flexibility, it also has sports damper control.  The 4 wheel drive is a 60/40 split in normal running but shifts power to which ever wheels that needs extra almost instantly.  Coupled with the 8 speed sports transmission & twin turbo's the power delivery in sport + mode is unbelievable.  4 Pot bembo's on the front make it stop just as quick

I like or should I say liked the three series, I had an e46 first then two e90 and last the f30 the current 3 series. I liked the e46 and e90 but I am no fan of the f30 because it became so big and lost so much of its handling characteristic.

How do you find the xdrive ? The reason I ask is my neighbour had a test drive (ex driving instructor) and said he felt the skittish , he then spoke to his mate a driver training  instructor who told him the police had needed extra training to drive the bmw xdrive as it had cought some of their drives out...not handling as expected.

I would say that the build quality and final finish of the bmw's is a step up though from the golf so horses for courses.
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