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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #20 on: 06 April 2016, 17:44 »
The CS is going to be bought by people that don't care too much about the retail price, they're on good wages and just want 'nice' things and by nature most buyers will be pretty conservative professional types. I think in some ways it's a shame these cars will never see their potential for the main (there will be a good few exceptions) but it'll also mean there will be a lot of nice ones on the second hand market in a few years as most of the buyers will have cherished them.

This will be one Clubsport owner who falls into the good few exceptions all being well.

Timing is perfect for replacing our car There was no question it was going to be a GTI. (The only car I've personally owned that wasn't a GTI was a VR6 Corrado.).

There was no way we'd miss out on a special edition GTI from new as our first ever new from the showroom car. I am very fortunate that we are in a position at the moment where we can afford to pay over the odds for it.

The fact that the car has sparked so much debate only adds to the desirability for me. I like something that divides opinion and can lead me into long conversations about my favorite subject. Cars.
Spot on! 
I'm quite envious that you're getting one but also very pleased because you sound like the right kind of owner :smiley:
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #21 on: 06 April 2016, 18:41 »
The CS is going to be bought by people that don't care too much about the retail price, they're on good wages and just want 'nice' things and by nature most buyers will be pretty conservative professional types. I think in some ways it's a shame these cars will never see their potential for the main (there will be a good few exceptions) but it'll also mean there will be a lot of nice ones on the second hand market in a few years as most of the buyers will have cherished them.

This will be one Clubsport owner who falls into the good few exceptions all being well.

Timing is perfect for replacing our car There was no question it was going to be a GTI. (The only car I've personally owned that wasn't a GTI was a VR6 Corrado.).

There was no way we'd miss out on a special edition GTI from new as our first ever new from the showroom car. I am very fortunate that we are in a position at the moment where we can afford to pay over the odds for it.

The fact that the car has sparked so much debate only adds to the desirability for me. I like something that divides opinion and can lead me into long conversations about my favorite subject. Cars.
Yes, yourself and Dave HA54SYM were two people I had in mind that would buck the trend as far as using the car's potential!
I can't wait to see one in the flesh myself. That's when I'll decide whether I should've stuck with plan A and by which time it'll be too late.
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #22 on: 06 April 2016, 18:59 »
My opinion is that these special edition GTI's have had their day since the introduction of the R. Ok the GTI is an icon in name but it's no longer the premium hot hatch in the golf line up. I still believe that VW would have been better introducing a special edition R and I don't necessarily mean the R400. Why not an R with the bucket seats, a more aggressive front end and increase power to 340-350 which is probably easily manageable. I'm sure this would be massively popular if they limited numbers and sold them for lets say £36k

I just can't see the logic in the clubsport given its price. I'm sure it will stand out on the roads when you see one but I can't get my head round why you would choose this over the R  :huh: :huh:

I do really like the look of it and wouldn't mind one as a weekend toy but it is very very pricey for what is still a 3 door hatch when £35k gets you into an AUC Porsche Cayman..  And they just haven't specced up the hardware enough to make it "special" - my BMW has 370mm front discs and 4 pot Brembos and does 0-60 in 5.6  - a diesel 4 door saloon so at the very least the performance should be a clear sub 6 second 0-60 and with some proper bespoke brakes, dampers, seats etc - if they included that for bang on £29,999 it would be worth it but then I come back to me point - supply and demand if you only have to shift 1000 they will sell.  It will be very annoying for anyone who buys one that they then decide to sell another 2500 ...
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #23 on: 06 April 2016, 19:27 »
Did I see someone post 24-26 weeks lead time so we are talking Sept / Oct ?
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #24 on: 06 April 2016, 19:29 »
Did I see someone post 24-26 weeks lead time so we are talking Sept / Oct ?
Official Volkswagen SLI/Desktop system states 24 weeks and to manage customer expectations ;)
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #25 on: 06 April 2016, 19:58 »
The CS is going to be bought by people that don't care too much about the retail price, they're on good wages and just want 'nice' things and by nature most buyers will be pretty conservative professional types. I think in some ways it's a shame these cars will never see their potential for the main (there will be a good few exceptions) but it'll also mean there will be a lot of nice ones on the second hand market in a few years as most of the buyers will have cherished them.

This will be one Clubsport owner who falls into the good few exceptions all being well.

Timing is perfect for replacing our car There was no question it was going to be a GTI. (The only car I've personally owned that wasn't a GTI was a VR6 Corrado.).

There was no way we'd miss out on a special edition GTI from new as our first ever new from the showroom car. I am very fortunate that we are in a position at the moment where we can afford to pay over the odds for it.

The fact that the car has sparked so much debate only adds to the desirability for me. I like something that divides opinion and can lead me into long conversations about my favorite subject. Cars.
Yes, yourself and Dave HA54SYM were two people I had in mind that would buck the trend as far as using the car's potential!
I can't wait to see one in the flesh myself. That's when I'll decide whether I should've stuck with plan A and by which time it'll be too late.

The full potential idea is interesting, and I hope they aren't show queens, but i'm not sure there is much full potential over a GTi PP.  Its the same weight as a GTi PP, its got a 35hp increase yes with more on overboost, which could be obtained by a re-map from a leading specialist on a PP.  And I doubt the journo's would have been able to tell the rear ARB increase by 2mm and a slight tweak of spring rates if the car hadn't been fitted with cup2's tyres on all the test days. Those tyres can make ordinary cars appear transformed!

If it had Brembo's, Cup2's, Ohlins and 75+kg weight saving and a nominal 20hp increase that would be a interesting car to drive and I would make the man maths work today to get one.   :grin: 

I will still ogle at one when I first see it in the flesh :wink: but as CraigW says perhaps they should have made an R version... CSR perhaps?
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #26 on: 06 April 2016, 20:34 »
Let's not forget that this car is supposed to mark the 40th anniversary of the gti. To make a CSR would somewhat negate the point of the car.

If it was an outright special edition golf then fair dos, but it's a special edition gti...
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #27 on: 06 April 2016, 20:46 »
Let's not forget that this car is supposed to mark the 40th anniversary of the gti. To make a CSR would somewhat negate the point of the car.

If it was an outright special edition golf then fair dos, but it's a special edition gti...
Indeed!
And I still reckon they originally planned it with a carbon fibre roof but chickened out
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
« Reply #28 on: 06 April 2016, 22:08 »
looking at the pics, do you guys it is going to sit that low in the arches in reality or is that just a bit of fudging for the marketing - the blurb says lower as per the normal gti but that looks lower that standard to me in the press release pics ?
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Re: GTI Clubsport Edition 40 - press release
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Ride height on Geneva car also no arm rest or covered cup holder (that pic was blurred)