GTI DSG - rarely in the "right" gear?

[JesGit]

My previous car was a DSG diesel Scirocco and, generally, I thought the transmission suited the engine. 90% of the time I left it in Normal and it was fine. IMHO, it had two flaws: it often didn't change down fast enough for my liking when slowing down so that it would be in too high a gear for pulling away smoothly when the road was clear again - paddles came in handy for that one; its worst trait however was the combo of DSG and Start-Stop at busy junctions & roundabouts. Once it had killed the engine, starting off again required not only engine restart (which was fast) but for the DSG to wake up and engage the clutch (which was painfully slow and could be hair-raising if pulling onto, say, a busy roundabout). In town, I mostly disabled Start-Stop.

I thought I might miss the relaxed nature of the DSG when I changed to a manual GTI last year, but not a bit of it. It's good to always (mostly!) be in the right gear and the manual box seems to suit the the car more. Horses for courses, I suppose.

[kalimon]

If you could turn stop/start of permanently, a lot of people would be delighted I'm sure.

[remlapeel]

My R is the first DSG car I have had, and it wasn't an option I chose, my car was a cancelled order that I snapped up to skip the 9 month wait (3weeks instead)

I agree D changes to quickly and S changes to late, but once I started using the paddles it all made sense. I literally don't ever use auto mode, all manual mode. My Mk7 GTI was a manual and my Jag is a manual and I genuinely prefer the driving experience of the DSG more.

[Booth11]

I genuinely paused before my last post, knowing I would receive a severe and deserved rollocking from you Rebecca 

Severe rollicking?  That's me being a pussycat. 

[Exonian]

I refer your honour to post number 10 above in which Ms Booth, the witness for the defence, clearly states she also wished there was an in between mode which isn't set up for the aforementioned lab conditions as defined by the EU grey suited gravy train.

The council rests its case and is now off to spend the next umpteen hours doing more pointless beurocracy.

I present to the prosecution - Exhibit 1 - DSG paddles

If it's any consolation I've just finished my shift of umpteen hours of pointless bureaucracy.

Yes, but at least you can spell it correctly at the end of your stint whereas I messed it up before I even arrived at my cell office!

BTW, I'm not accepting paddles as an excuse from all you DSG adopters as that wasn't the issue raised in post 1. It's the inability of the DSG brain that's at question here.
If you can (and have to) flip a paddle you may as well flip a lovely golf ball gear knob.
The gear knob itself is reason enough to spec a manual GTI or D.
 

R's may be a different kettle of fish as the power band is different, the power delivery is different and the gear change isn't quite as slick.
Though I still prefer manual.

In a couple years when I get my Aygo I might consider a slush box...
 

[wigit]

I pretty much use it in manual mode 90% of the time now, the fact that i cannot be arsed to use the Polo these days which is a manual says it all

Not prefect with kick down and change up in manual mode, looking forward to seeing how the DCT box compares on the 2

I get why some people say they don't like it but not this but a manual is more engaging, the manual box on the 7 isn't its crowning glory

[Bungleaio]

DSG in auto mode will never be exactly what you want as what you want changes. If you want complete control then a manual will only ever be the choice to go for.

Personally I'm very happy with the DSG, I've just learned how it does it's thing and adjust accordingly.

[kalimon]

I refer your honour to post number 10 above in which Ms Booth, the witness for the defence, clearly states she also wished there was an in between mode which isn't set up for the aforementioned lab conditions as defined by the EU grey suited gravy train.

The council rests its case and is now off to spend the next umpteen hours doing more pointless beurocracy.

I present to the prosecution - Exhibit 1 - DSG paddles

If it's any consolation I've just finished my shift of umpteen hours of pointless bureaucracy.

Yes, but at least you can spell it correctly at the end of your stint whereas I messed it up before I even arrived at my cell office!

BTW, I'm not accepting paddles as an excuse from all you DSG adopters as that wasn't the issue raised in post 1. It's the inability of the DSG brain that's at question here.
If you can (and have to) flip a paddle you may as well flip a lovely golf ball gear knob.
The gear knob itself is reason enough to spec a manual GTI or D.
 
Correct. It's the automatic/ non-paddle part of the DSG that I and many others dislike.

R's may be a different kettle of fish as the power band is different, the power delivery is different and the gear change isn't quite as slick.
Though I still prefer manual.

In a couple years when I get my Aygo I might consider a slush box...
 

[Booth11]

I refer your honour to post number 10 above in which Ms Booth, the witness for the defence, clearly states she also wished there was an in between mode which isn't set up for the aforementioned lab conditions as defined by the EU grey suited gravy train.

The council rests its case and is now off to spend the next umpteen hours doing more pointless beurocracy.

I present to the prosecution - Exhibit 1 - DSG paddles

If it's any consolation I've just finished my shift of umpteen hours of pointless bureaucracy.

Yes, but at least you can spell it correctly at the end of your stint whereas I messed it up before I even arrived at my cell office!

BTW, I'm not accepting paddles as an excuse from all you DSG adopters as that wasn't the issue raised in post 1. It's the inability of the DSG brain that's at question here.
If you can (and have to) flip a paddle you may as well flip a lovely golf ball gear knob.
The gear knob itself is reason enough to spec a manual GTI or D.
 

R's may be a different kettle of fish as the power band is different, the power delivery is different and the gear change isn't quite as slick.
Though I still prefer manual.

In a couple years when I get my Aygo I might consider a slush box...
 

Human brain + DSG + paddles = driving perfection.

Forget the Aygo.  Such is your reluctance to embrace the dual box, I suspect your first and final dalliance with DSG will be as you are laying in your coffin, which, by then, will be able to drive itself to the cemetery (choice of D or S of course), manoeuvre into your pre-paid plot and park itself perfectly in your final resting place.   From one cell office to another.   I shall send a wreath spelling out Bureaucracy.  RIP Mr Ex.   

[corgi]

A few years ago, I was a confirmed automatic hater... I've driven plenty of cars with DSG and they didn't sway me... but my g/f has a BMW 320d M-Sport with the 8 Speed Sport Auto and it is magnificent... you can trick it if you try but 95% of the time it is fine... and for the odd time it's not use the paddles...

My 5.0 XKR has an older school 6 speed auto... that's pretty good too but I guess many of its flaws are masked by 500+bhp and 400+ lb/ft or torque...