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Offline Cossieian

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DSG Hints/Tips
« on: 31 October 2015, 08:23 »
So guys collected my R on Thursday evening, first car I've owned with DSG, just wondered if you guys had any hints or tips to driving with this system?

Couple of things I've noticed straight away (but not the end of the world):

1: whilst slowing down coming to a junction in Auto the car feels like it's going to cut out and a bit jerky, not as smooth as I'd like maybe, now I know it will never cut out., but just feels that way

2: again when slowing down to a junction pressing the brake pedal not so hard, if I actually come to a stop and release the brake pedal the car will move off again on its own without touching accelerator, could easy hit the rear end of someone if not careful :sick:

3: when ending my journey and putting the car into park, the car will cut out whilst moving the gearstick from D/S to P, then start agin when slid into park, ie cuts out then starts straight away again

Don't get me wrong these points aren't annoying me, merely just observations :smiley:

Any further tips would be cool :nerd:
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #1 on: 31 October 2015, 10:27 »
This is my 1st DSG but I've had a couple of autos. I've got a GTI rather than a R but they should still behave pretty similarly.

1 - It should be smooth with no jerkiness. Maybe an R owner can confirm.

2 - All autos will creep without any brakes on, the golf has auto hold which will stop this for you. Just make sure the light is on on the switch and it won't move. The switch should remember it's setting. I've not touched mine since I picked up the car.

3 - Is this the start stop kicking in? I've not experienced this but I've had start stop switched off whilst I'm running the engine in.


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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #2 on: 31 October 2015, 11:32 »
Hi Cossieian

Some of what you are describing sounds like the Stop/Start system.  If I were you, just to compare, I would do some back to back journeys with and without the Stop/Start system activated.

1. Even with S/S there should be NO jerkiness when coming to a halt.  The S/S is very subtle I have found when stopping especially. I still don't like it but only because I prefer a quick getaway at junctions/lights and the slight pause annoys me, but that's just personal preference. So I tend to switch it off but you can override it whilst leaving the system on, by lightly keeping your foot on the brake which stops it kicking in.

2. As said the DSG box creeps like an auto does, so this is normal and you have to come to a proper halt so the auto hold engages.  Before the advent of auto hold, you had to keep your foot on the brake to stop the creep. I'm still getting used to the fact I have autohold and on (now rare) occasions still find myself with my foot on the brake as I would have with my previous DSG. Just a case of learning new habits which takes time to become second nature.
As Bungleaio says once selected the autohold stays selected, at least mine has from when the dealer switched it on at handover, I've not touched it since.  It's a fantastic feature and can't imagine being without it and that's only a month into ownership.

3. Don't quite understand this and not experienced it myself.  With S/S activated, when you stop for good in D/S the engine will cut out quickly and stay out when you slide the lever into P, and thereafter, the engine shouldn't start up again at all.  If the engine is starting again in P, my best guess is that you might be keeping your foot lightly on the brake which is overriding the S/S system, as if the car thinks you are going to move off again?  As I say it's a guess so could be wrong.  With S/S deactivated when you come to a full stop in D/S the engine still runs even when the gear lever is moved to P.  It only goes off when you hit the ignition switch to off (keyless) or turn the ignition off (key).

What I will say is it's a steep learning curve going from a lifetime of manuals to a DSG.  Undoubtedly over time you learn to adjust your driving style and habits to the DSG way, and it IS different from driving manual.  So I wouldn't rush to assume there's anything wrong with the car at this stage (unless it's something glaringly obvious). Over the coming weeks you will adjust and learn the nuances of DSG driving and hopefully it will become second nature.

It's funny as when I recently had the manual A3 hire car, I couldn't bear it at first, but after about 2 weeks I found my way od driving reverted back to a manual style and it suddenly became much more intuitive again.  Hopefully you will find the same but in reverse, i.e. Manual to DSG.  :smiley:

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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #3 on: 31 October 2015, 13:45 »
A lot of this is all very dependant on whether SS and Auto Hold are enabled. Generally it all works quite well together and better so than it did in previous generations.

I've occasionally noticed No. 3 (engine coming back on in Park) but I'm not sure what makes it do that. Even if SS hadn't cut in when you came to a stop, the system is usually intelligent enough to turn the engine off in Park.
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #4 on: 31 October 2015, 14:08 »
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I've occasionally noticed No. 3 (engine coming back on in Park) but I'm not sure what makes it do that. Even if SS hadn't cut in when you came to a stop, the system is usually intelligent enough to turn the engine off in Park.

With no.3 something must be triggering the engine to start running again, interesting.  I've been out in the car quite a bit today and could not get this to happen whenever I parked up.  Wonder if it's just a quirk of certain styles of driving, something the driver does by habit that leads to it happening.  Can't imagine why it would happen otherwise?

But with the S/S deactivated, putting the car from D/S into P definitely doesn't cut the engine. It remains running until you turn the ignition off.
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #5 on: 31 October 2015, 23:01 »
1. Mine does number one, generally when its cold and I pull up quickly. Never worried about it as it never stalls but I know what you mean, the revs dip a little, like its not expecting you to stop and then it dips the clutches to save it. I believe this also happens as it leaves it in the highest gear possible until the last minute. Which is like bringing the car to a halt in second gear.

2. This is normal too, just press a little harder on the brake pedal and it will auto hold.

3. I always run with stop start, but I expect you pull up auto hold kicks in and stop/start kicks in. I did notice with mine that if I put it in park when the stop/start has kicked in it will then put a message on the screen stating that I would have to manually restart the car.
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #6 on: 01 November 2015, 00:59 »
Point No.3.My Auto M135i did the same as your DSG Golf.Pretty annoying.I used to switch off the stop/start just before i arrived at my destination.
My manual GTD doesn't have the same problem.
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #7 on: 01 November 2015, 09:52 »
Hi my first gti in 2013 and now on new second one just acquired both exactly same behaviour. Things I have noticed
You must come to a complete absolute stop or the car will creep forwards
If you are gentle with the brake in doing the above the car will stop but engine keeps running
If you push hard doing the above on the brake the engine will also stop
The process is always smooth maybe a slight engine hesitation but never enough to worry
Note that the engine may restart at anytime due to heater a/c demands and it does not always stop even if you press the brake hard because of a/c heater battery condition etc
Obviously the auto hold switch must be on
Hope some of the above is useful. One difference I have noted between the 2013 and the new one is I do not have to have my seatbelt on to pull away, if I didn't put it on the parking brake would not disengage, having said that I do prefer the newer car allowing me to make my own decision as to when to belt up😀

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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #8 on: 01 November 2015, 13:03 »
Yeah I've noticed the seatbelt thing, definitely makes it easier if your doing a quick manoeuvre or moving arround the drive etc. I had a rental 15-plate 1.6 TDI a few months ago and it needed you to have the seatbelt on, so not sure when this was changed
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Re: DSG Hints/Tips
« Reply #9 on: 01 November 2015, 13:33 »
Yeah I've noticed the seatbelt thing, definitely makes it easier if your doing a quick manoeuvre or moving arround the drive etc. I had a rental 15-plate 1.6 TDI a few months ago and it needed you to have the seatbelt on, so not sure when this was changed

Agree.  I'd heard all the stories of faffing around with the seat belt / autohold on the earlier cars.  Thank God VW saw sense and got rid of that.
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