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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #40 on: 25 September 2015, 18:43 »
Just rang up Audi UK. Blanket statement of them looking into whether it is an issue outside the US, what engines might be affected etc. I said I was wondering whether I wanted to pick up our new A1 on Saturday, whether residuals would be harmed or whether the car would require a lot of rework under recall etc.

I said that I felt I might need to delay pick-up of the car until all potential questions were answered. Hoping they would offer a sweetener like some accessories or a voucher. Nothing offered, I didn't want to hint at it and give the game away of trying it on.

Might mention my "concerns" to the dealership salesman when he calls today to talk reg numbers etc. They might hoy in a freebie or 2 (doubt it).

My GTD has just arrived in the UK.I'm not particularly happy with what VW have (possibly) done with my car.But at the same time i'm not going to reject it.It is still very early days yet so i'm not going to jump on the 'we're all dooooooomed!' ship just yet. :smiley:

I'm not concerned, just hoping that voicing a concern might persuade VAG to throw a service pack in the mix for free - shy bairns get nowt.  :evil:

Congratulations, it's stunts like these that make all cars more expensive to buy and run for all of us. How else do you think they will recover the cost? No such thing as a free lunch is there?

When they can sell a Golf 7 GTI or R to the Yanks for 2/3 of the cost to us in the EU (and the R for US market is a Wolfsburg built one) and give them free metallic paint, they are making more than enough out of us in the EU and especially in the UK.

Funny how cheap they can be when market conditions force them to be competitive. When the Euro weakens 20% over a year and yet they impose 2 rises in the UK list price in the space of 10 months, they clearly are making plenty from UK buyers. If I can get a free service pack out of them then I will try, they already have our pants down.

I pay a premium for a new VW/Audiover much of the competition, some of that is down to refinement, some down to technological advancement, but most importantly down to excellent residual expectations. If panic and rumour might erode those residuals, I would like to get something back.

Despite my having previously bought VWs on finance and generally getting 0.3% below their typical APR on the webpage for that model, and having an impeccable credit history, the typical APR on the A1 is currently 6.5%. On the finance agreement for the wife's A1, the APR is 7.6%, and the GFV is over £500 less than you can achieve on Audi's own finance calculator for that model. He's clearly manipulated the system to claw back some of the discount agreed at point of sale. That is no bother to me, I put £7k down and will settle the other £10k within the 14 day finance cooling off period on Monday.

When they do sneaky things like that, I have no qualms in trying to press them for a free service pack with the current media sh!tstorm going on around VAG.
« Last Edit: 26 September 2015, 09:36 by monkeyhanger »
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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #41 on: 26 September 2015, 10:12 »
this will probably turn into another PPI style event... Lawyers rubbing their hands and chasing VW drivers down the streets looking for cash..

Lawyers will be the only winners here.

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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #42 on: 26 September 2015, 12:10 »
and fuel for he climate change debate

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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #43 on: 26 September 2015, 21:23 »
Nice to know my soon to be picked up Euro 6 compliant GTD isn't affected by this storm in a teacup. :cool:
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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #44 on: 28 September 2015, 11:06 »
Apparently car makers have tricked us into buying cars  :whistle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34376086

Doesn't take a genius to realise that these tests have always been a farce and that real world figures are no where near the manufacturers claims  :rolleyes:

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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #45 on: 28 September 2015, 16:12 »
Apparently car makers have tricked us into buying cars  :whistle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34376086

Doesn't take a genius to realise that these tests have always been a farce and that real world figures are no where near the manufacturers claims  :rolleyes:

Lots of people will "welcome" stricter tests until it hits them in the wallet.
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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #46 on: 28 September 2015, 18:50 »
Nice to know my soon to be picked up Euro 6 compliant GTD isn't affected by this storm in a teacup. :cool:
It is already affecting us in the UK without many knowing, the GFV of certain models has alredy been slashed, running into thousands on some models compared to a month ago.

Its a complete and utter shambles from the Volkswagen group, Skoda and Audi are now admitting they too have dodgy cars out there...... this could cost the group way more than the initial $18 billion in terms of fines, you then have individual law suites on top of that then the actual cost of recalling the cars!

Wouldn't surprise me if the Golf R400 got shelved along with other projects, the entire R&D team for VW, Audi and Porsche have been suspended too.

New Focus RS anybody?  :grin: :laugh:
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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #47 on: 28 September 2015, 19:00 »
One thing is for sure the undeclared map and even the ability to reprogram is going to be history

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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #48 on: 04 October 2015, 13:27 »
well after all the news, it looks like UK cars are effected too. you can check here with VIN to see if you are one of them...

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo

It seems mine is effected though

Dear Volkswagen customer,

We regret to inform you that the Type EA 189 engine built into your vehicle with the Vehicle Identification Number you submitted, is affected by software that causes discrepancies in the values for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) during dynometer runs. Your car is safe from a technical standpoint and roadworthy.

We are very sorry to have broken your trust and are working at full speed to find a technical solution. Volkswagen will cover the cost relating directly to this repair.

We will be in touch with you directly to explain what steps are required. We'll do the necessary work at our cost and have you quickly back on the road.


Yours faithfully,

Volkswagen.
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Re: Naughty naughty VW
« Reply #49 on: 04 October 2015, 16:20 »
well after all the news, it looks like UK cars are effected too. you can check here with VIN to see if you are one of them...

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo

It seems mine is effected though

Dear Volkswagen customer,

We regret to inform you that the Type EA 189 engine built into your vehicle with the Vehicle Identification Number you submitted, is affected by software that causes discrepancies in the values for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) during dynometer runs. Your car is safe from a technical standpoint and roadworthy.

We are very sorry to have broken your trust and are working at full speed to find a technical solution. Volkswagen will cover the cost relating directly to this repair.

We will be in touch with you directly to explain what steps are required. We'll do the necessary work at our cost and have you quickly back on the road.


Yours faithfully,

Volkswagen.


Just checked mine, its also affected... (2010 GTD)