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Offline CraigW

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Re: Evo: Video of Golf R vs new RS3 track battle
« Reply #30 on: 10 August 2015, 23:03 »
I can't see for the life of me the R400 being cheaper than the RS3. If it's a limited edition pushing out 400bhp then I would reckon circa £45k. I will be amazed if it's below £40k.

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Re: Evo: Video of Golf R vs new RS3 track battle
« Reply #31 on: 11 August 2015, 07:11 »
I can't see for the life of me the R400 being cheaper than the RS3. If it's a limited edition pushing out 400bhp then I would reckon circa £45k. I will be amazed if it's below £40k.

I'd have to agree - I can't realistically see it being cheaper, like you say it is a limited edition and you can quite easily spec up a R and it's close to that 40k.

So for me I am just intrigued to see what they do with pricing - if it was a similar price to the RS3 - better equipped - that would be interesting.

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Re: Evo: Video of Golf R vs new RS3 track battle
« Reply #32 on: 11 August 2015, 08:22 »
Wasn't there somewhere else on here where they said the target price was > £40k? I reckon that there will be little, if any, change from £50k once you factor in extras (and your straight jacket)...
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Re: Evo: Video of Golf R vs new RS3 track battle
« Reply #33 on: 11 August 2015, 10:44 »
:grin: Must admit I watched the autoexpress video test of the Cupra, megan and type R thought I preferred the cupra even though it was slightly slower than the honda. Watching him bounced about in the type r was funny. The next video from them was the M3 v Type R v RS3 watching that made me think cupra still as it was the same track.
Sorry I just find 4WD boring and DSG and 4WD more so. People who complain about traction imo need to learn to drive and should buy some performance driving lessons.

It's not about being able to drive, there is a limit to what the front wheels can do. Given that in the UK it rains 290 out of the 365 days a year, even moderate acceleration on a bad road causes the traction light to come on if the weather is poor. I would prefer to enjoy the performance my car can give more than 2 out of the 12 months.  You remap it and it's even worse. 250-300bhp is pushing the limit of FWD and that's a limit some people don't want.

This is pretty much my thinking too.

It depends on your definition of fun really.

On a track it's the the drifting etc. Its fun!

On UK roads in very mixed conditions fun transforms to having lots of traction with seamless pull away and on the rails experiences at times that can really push it safely.

My GTD is the least powered of the three MK7 and is much improved now Bridgestone have been banished but you still get the traction light coming on in wet conditions and that is something that having had 2 Quattro previously  still really frustrates me (maybe a little more biased due to being previous Quattro owner)

Maybe just being a little too sensible for some but my thinking always goes back to UK roads, its traffic and weather and as much as genuinely understand the 'fun' factor as stated above, I want a car that can push quite hard but safely too, and as much as is demonstrated in that video.

The fastest times around the Top Gear lap were usually the ones where the lines were smooth and straight with no slide or drift and that's pretty much what R would give you in most conditions. with the 300 BHP harnessed with the 4WD.

Think its ok to say that 4WD is boring on a track if used to something much different but when place it on real roads under real conditions it strikes the perfect balance of fun and safety.


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Re: Evo: Video of Golf R vs new RS3 track battle
« Reply #34 on: 16 August 2015, 23:21 »
..... The same, of course is true for rear wheel drive but they intrinsically have better traction than front wheel drive under acceleration...


Not entirely true!  In the wet, the weight of the engine over the front wheels, will give the FWD cars an advantage over their RWD counterparts.  :wink:  You only have to watch a wet BTCC race to see that.
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