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Offline clubsport

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Prices holding up..
« on: 26 June 2015, 15:29 »
I have been following prices of petrol GTi for a while now. I tried to buy a car at the end of last year from a VW dealer which apparently sold before I could place a deposit.

As an observation since then, very few non VW franchise cars seem to come to market and seem to be offered at prices higher than 6-8 months ago?

I understand spec makes a difference to the price and right now due to spec changes on new cars the purchase price has increased. This has held or dragged 1 year old cars up?

What next, do we see a few cars come to market when the 2 year lease deals are up from 2013?

Although prices appear to be holding up, I am not so sure dealers are paying over the odds to current owners who look to move to another car.

There just seems to be quite a few cars hanging around at VW, still for sale with prices often £2k above a comparable spec or mileage car.

I really thought I was going to get a 5 door PP Gti next, but am now wondering what else to consider.

Any other observations on current offered prices?

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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #1 on: 26 June 2015, 16:41 »
What sort of money was the GTI that you nearly bought? out of interest.
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #2 on: 26 June 2015, 17:06 »
£22,950 in carbon grey, no other extras, under 20 miles driven..... nothing like that available now.

I guess I am on the wrong planet with this observation, most people don't need to know or care how much a car costs, only what the monthly payment is over 2-3 years!


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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #3 on: 26 June 2015, 17:22 »
I've just put a 5 door,carbon grey,PP in orangewheels online car broker and you can get a brand new one for £24924.
Mention matching orangewhes to your dealer they will be aware of them,they should at least match it might even beat it depending on how you play your hand.
It's worth considering,nearly all on here haven't paid anyware near list price.
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #4 on: 26 June 2015, 18:42 »
Several of my friends (up and down the country) have had phone calls from their dealer trying to get them to sell them their 12-18 month old Mk7 GTI/GTD and buy a new one...

This might well hold the price if they can corner the second hand market...

Remembering as you say, the Mk7 is already more expensive new than it was previously.
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #5 on: 26 June 2015, 18:58 »
My dealer is giving me £19 for my year old GTD, I suspect they will advertise it for £21-22k
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #6 on: 26 June 2015, 19:14 »
What does the same car sell for new these days and what (if you don't mind me asking) did you pay originally?
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #7 on: 26 June 2015, 19:20 »
What does the same car sell for new these days and what (if you don't mind me asking) did you pay originally?

I paid £21k for it back in Feb from VW main dealer, was 8 months old and had 4k miles

It's now got just under 10k miles, so £2k hit in 5 months, although that £19k is valid until my new car arrives in about 4-5 months time so really it's a £2k loss in 9-10 months.
I'm not too bothered about losing a bit of money, you only live once and if I want something I just go for it :smiley:

I will say I advertised it myself privately and was getting some awful offers, well below £19k, I may have got £19500-20000k eventually but I would rather lose out on that extra than put up with messers, I'm done with private sales, it's just a headache these day :angry:
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Current: MK7 Golf R (Limestone Grey) DSG, 19 Prets, Winter Pack, Rear Camera, High Beam Assist, Apple Connect, Gloss Black Mirrors
Gone: MK7 Golf R (Tornado Red) DSG, Winter Pack, Keyless, Gloss Black Mirrors
Gone: MK7 Golf GTD (Pure White)

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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #8 on: 26 June 2015, 19:23 »
Its not just MK7, MK5 prices are amazing. Everything from 100,000mile ones at £5000 to showroom condition for £11,000
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Re: Prices holding up..
« Reply #9 on: 26 June 2015, 20:00 »
I generally keep an eye on the prices of my cars and noted that both my previous mk6 GTI and mk7 GTI dipped in value between Nov and late Feb then recovered in price by up to £1000 between Feb and June using CAP black book trade prices.
If you're buying cash then buy in winter when sales are slow and dealers keen to shift metal. If part ex'ing then there's no particularly ideal time as both cars values will fluctuate according to market conditions.
The best buys are generally ex demo or sales manager's company cars that they will want shot of after about three to six months as they will be under pressure from VW to order new ones.
If you have no part ex and aren't in a rush you can get some amazing GTI deals via brokers that will make buying used totally unnecessary. Also keep an eye out for cancelled orders and be ready to deal quickly at the end of a month if a dealer has bonuses to meet.

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