Author Topic: I blame you lot...  (Read 75424 times)

Offline am1w

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,544
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #60 on: 28 June 2015, 07:53 »
The road roar is unacceptable to the extent it affects conversation. It has to be addressed and will be addressed.

Is it like that on different road surfaces, or just particular ones?  Different car I know, but on mine, even on 19s with relatively noisy tyres, I've never found road noise to be so intrusive as to drown out normal in-car conversation even with music playing simultaneously, EXCEPT on a couple of very recently resurfaced roads, where the noise is noticeably louder, but the noise is short lived so no issue.

Perhaps it is something more than just your tyres then.  Your earlier suggestion of comparing it to one or two other R's on the same roads sounds like a worthwhile plan, and if it compares badly, and is vastly noisier, then to get it checked out. 

But you do need to ditch your (slightly soiled) rubbish rubber and get some Michelin PSS on  :wink:  :kiss:

Before I ditch the Bridgestones, I will try an R or two to assess the noise on these particular roads. If they are not as noisy with their Bridgestone tyres then it has to be a strut or something like that on my car that needs to be checked by VW. It is fun fiddling around!  :kiss:
« Last Edit: 28 June 2015, 07:56 by am1w »
RED TORNADO 7R, 5 DR, DSG, DCC, DNS, DYNAUDIO, KI, WP, HBA, LN, SP

Offline Booth11

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 7,739
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #61 on: 28 June 2015, 08:42 »
Before I ditch the Bridgestones, I will try an R or two to assess the noise on these particular roads. If they are not as noisy with their Bridgestone tyres then it has to be a strut or something like that on my car that needs to be checked by VW. It is fun fiddling around!  :kiss:

That's very true.  We all love a bit of a fiddle here and there, so fiddle away my love.  :wink: :kiss:
Black Beauty: MK7 R 5dr DSG, DBP, 19" Pretoria, DCC, Vienna leather, Keyless, Dynaudio, DNS Pro, Rear camera, HBA
2012 MK6 GTI DSG
2008 MK5 GTI DSG
2005 MK5 GTI Manual

https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11

Offline am1w

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,544
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #62 on: 28 June 2015, 08:56 »
Before I ditch the Bridgestones, I will try an R or two to assess the noise on these particular roads. If they are not as noisy with their Bridgestone tyres then it has to be a strut or something like that on my car that needs to be checked by VW. It is fun fiddling around!  :kiss:

That's very true.  We all love a bit of a fiddle here and there, so fiddle away my love.  :wink: :kiss:

No chance of that yet as I am still in Athens for a couple more weeks.

Long queues at ATMs and many are running out of money. Thankfully, I took plenty of cash with me. But if that runs out and the ATMs are shut, then I'll take the first flight back or ring my UK bank and they can deliver some cash in an envelope! A bit worrying and surreal.
RED TORNADO 7R, 5 DR, DSG, DCC, DNS, DYNAUDIO, KI, WP, HBA, LN, SP

Offline Booth11

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 7,739
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #63 on: 28 June 2015, 09:31 »
No chance of that yet as I am still in Athens for a couple more weeks.

You'll just have to find something else to fiddle with in the meantime  :tongue:  :kiss:

Long queues at ATMs and many are running out of money. Thankfully, I took plenty of cash with me. But if that runs out and the ATMs are shut, then I'll take the first flight back or ring my UK bank and they can deliver some cash in an envelope! A bit worrying and surreal.

Very difficult times. Referendum soon. 
Black Beauty: MK7 R 5dr DSG, DBP, 19" Pretoria, DCC, Vienna leather, Keyless, Dynaudio, DNS Pro, Rear camera, HBA
2012 MK6 GTI DSG
2008 MK5 GTI DSG
2005 MK5 GTI Manual

https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11

Offline p3asa

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 4,460
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #64 on: 28 June 2015, 10:00 »
Quote from: am1w

The road roar is unacceptable to the extent it affects conversation. It has to be addressed and will be addressed.

Who goes in an R for conversation?  That's what cafés / bistros are for!

Seriously though maybe you've adjusted your doors too much to allow the noise in!
HIS: R 5dr DSG Lapiz: Tech Pack: Keyless: 90% Tints: Pretorias: Rear View Camera
HERS:  GTI 5dr Manual DBP: Parking Pack: Car-Net App: 90% Privacy Glass. Ordered 05-12-15. Delivered 03-03-16
DONATED TO SON:  GTD 5dr Manual White: Nav Pro: Dynaudio: Winter Pack: Sport & Sound Pack: Rear View Camera: Park Assist. Ordered 19-02-14. Delivered: 07-06-14

Offline am1w

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,544
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #65 on: 28 June 2015, 10:19 »
Quote from: am1w
The road roar is unacceptable to the extent it affects conversation. It has to be addressed and will be addressed.
Who goes in an R for conversation?  That's what cafés / bistros are for!
Seriously though maybe you've adjusted your doors too much to allow the noise in!

Love your logic! LOL.

No, the doors are Bank Vault tight with no wind noise at speeds up to xxx mph. It is the road roar from the blooming tyres on our abundant rough road surfaces which is the only remaining problem. Many of my German friends comment on this also. Perhaps VW should select tyres when they drive on UK rough road surfaces.

Have bigger fish to fry today. ATMs in Athens are running out of money, the ECB will stop funding the Greek Banks after today, Capital controls will probably be introduced tomorrow, etc. I have plenty of cash to last me a few weeks, but I think I will have to give my Greek friends some of it so that they don't starve.

Rushing out shortly to find an operating  ATM. What a 'mare!
« Last Edit: 28 June 2015, 10:21 by am1w »
RED TORNADO 7R, 5 DR, DSG, DCC, DNS, DYNAUDIO, KI, WP, HBA, LN, SP

Offline Exonian

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,295
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #66 on: 28 June 2015, 10:19 »
Quote from: am1w

The road roar is unacceptable to the extent it affects conversation. It has to be addressed and will be addressed.

Who goes in an R for conversation?  That's what cafés / bistros are for!

Seriously though maybe you've adjusted your doors too much to allow the noise in!

And here's the thing.
The R and all other hot hatches have quite wide tyres for obvious reasons of physics.
Wide tyres tend to make a bit of noise.
A hot hatch is based on a standard hatch - you get your 300 horses for £30k for that reason - economies of scale and all that.
A hot hatch is like a standard hatch with a few added ingredients; that's the beauty of them and why they're so popular in this overcrowded isle with lots of bendy roads. However, in order to behave like a fairly sporty car it won't have all the noise suppression of a limousine nor will it have the ride comfort levels. A fat bloke won't be able to compete on level terms with Mo Farrah despite all of the performance enhancing drugs the cows were fed before they became the fat bloke's beef burgers. Allegedly.

I've yet to decide whether my sh!testones are excessively noisy but in my limited (very limited) experience so far they seem ok considering what the R is all about. Lets put it this way - I wouldn't spec Dynaudio on an R unless I was going to be sat with the engine and air-con not running for long amounts of time, and I'd want better quality audio going into the system than crappy iPod quality or dodgy digital broadcasting (I think the nation was hoodwinked a little on that subject).
The R is designed with the PlayStation generation in mind, and with that it's designed to be a bit noisy so it can pretend to be something off a PlayStation game - particularly when you have DSG too and just have to steer it occasionally.
Exhaust noise seems to be all the rage so that's what manufacturers are giving us at the moment. I guess everything else on cars has to be dumbed down owing to EU and US legislation so your 300bhp is actually quite dull to drive compared to how VW could have made it if they'd have been allowed to so they try and overcompensate that by attempting to make it sound like a sporty and exciting drive whilst pootling about 99% of the time in a 40mph limit between sets of traffic lights.
‘25 8.5R, ‘23 8R, ‘20 8CS, ‘19 135iX, ‘19 TCR, ‘17 Ed40, ‘17 GTD, ‘15 7R, ‘13 GTI PP, ‘11 GTI, ‘09 GTI, ‘98 Ibiza Cupra, ‘05 GTI, ‘06 Polo GTI, ‘04 GT TDI, ‘05 Fabia vRS, ‘02 GTI T, ‘03 Ibiza TDI 130, ‘01 Leon 180, ‘89 mk2 16v, ‘99 Ibiza TDI, ‘96 VR6, ‘98 Ibiza TDI, ‘92 VR6, ‘88 mk2 8v, ‘92 Polo G40, ‘91 mk2 8v, ‘89 mk2 8v, 205 GTI 1.9, ‘83 mk1 GTI, ‘80 Scirocco GTI, plus some others I’ve forgotten 

Offline Exonian

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,295
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #67 on: 28 June 2015, 10:21 »
Quote from: am1w
The road roar is unacceptable to the extent it affects conversation. It has to be addressed and will be addressed.
Who goes in an R for conversation?  That's what cafés / bistros are for!
Seriously though maybe you've adjusted your doors too much to allow the noise in!

Love your logic! LOL.

No, the doors are Bank Vault tight with no wind noise at speeds up to xxx mph. No, the road roar is from the blooming tyres on rough road surfaces which seem abundant in the UK. Many of my German friends comment on this also. Perhaps VW should select tyres when they drive on UK rough road surfaces.

Having bigger fish to fry today. ATMs in Athens are running out of money, the ECB will stop funding the Greek Banks after today, Capital controls will probably be introduced tomorrow, etc. I have plenty of cash to last me a few weeks, but I think I will have to give my Greek friends some of it so that they don't starve.

Rushing out shortly to find an operating  ATM. What a 'mare!
You certainly decided on an interesting time to visit your home from home. Never a dull moment there by the sounds of it.
‘25 8.5R, ‘23 8R, ‘20 8CS, ‘19 135iX, ‘19 TCR, ‘17 Ed40, ‘17 GTD, ‘15 7R, ‘13 GTI PP, ‘11 GTI, ‘09 GTI, ‘98 Ibiza Cupra, ‘05 GTI, ‘06 Polo GTI, ‘04 GT TDI, ‘05 Fabia vRS, ‘02 GTI T, ‘03 Ibiza TDI 130, ‘01 Leon 180, ‘89 mk2 16v, ‘99 Ibiza TDI, ‘96 VR6, ‘98 Ibiza TDI, ‘92 VR6, ‘88 mk2 8v, ‘92 Polo G40, ‘91 mk2 8v, ‘89 mk2 8v, 205 GTI 1.9, ‘83 mk1 GTI, ‘80 Scirocco GTI, plus some others I’ve forgotten 

Offline p3asa

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 4,460
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #68 on: 28 June 2015, 10:30 »
Loads of money left here in Corfu am1w. Sail your private yacht over and help yourself LoL
HIS: R 5dr DSG Lapiz: Tech Pack: Keyless: 90% Tints: Pretorias: Rear View Camera
HERS:  GTI 5dr Manual DBP: Parking Pack: Car-Net App: 90% Privacy Glass. Ordered 05-12-15. Delivered 03-03-16
DONATED TO SON:  GTD 5dr Manual White: Nav Pro: Dynaudio: Winter Pack: Sport & Sound Pack: Rear View Camera: Park Assist. Ordered 19-02-14. Delivered: 07-06-14

Offline am1w

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,544
Re: I blame you lot...
« Reply #69 on: 28 June 2015, 10:32 »
Andy:

Tell me about it. Never a dull moment. Puts things in perspective. My rubber is a low priority now. Hunting for an ATM with cash in it now a priority. Have plenty of Euros (1500) for 3 weeks but need more, just in case.

At least the weather is super; not hot, not cold, just perfect day and night. Food fantastic and tastes so much better than in the UK.
RED TORNADO 7R, 5 DR, DSG, DCC, DNS, DYNAUDIO, KI, WP, HBA, LN, SP