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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #70 on: 09 June 2015, 15:41 »
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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #71 on: 09 June 2015, 15:53 »
The friend leased the Up! for himself. Since then he has given it to one of his cleaners. His other cars are Ferrari, Rolls, Lambo, McLaren, Range Rover, Mercedes, BMW, various Porsches and counting. No Audi yet! He has a 35 car garage when I counted last year.
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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #72 on: 10 June 2015, 13:50 »
The friend leased the Up! for himself. Since then he has given it to one of his cleaners. His other cars are Ferrari, Rolls, Lambo, McLaren, Range Rover, Mercedes, BMW, various Porsches and counting. No Audi yet! He has a 35 car garage when I counted last year.

I'm sure that you won't mind me pointing out that 'up!' should have a lower case 'u'.  :wink:

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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #73 on: 10 June 2015, 16:31 »
The friend leased the Up! for himself. Since then he has given it to one of his cleaners. His other cars are Ferrari, Rolls, Lambo, McLaren, Range Rover, Mercedes, BMW, various Porsches and counting. No Audi yet! He has a 35 car garage when I counted last year.

I'm sure that you won't mind me pointing out that 'up!' should have a lower case 'u'.  :wink:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/up-nf/home

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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #74 on: 13 June 2015, 22:23 »
I have looked through this thread but cannot see whether this Auto Express Review of the Type R has already been posted.

So here it is:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/civic/91748/type-r?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #75 on: 13 June 2015, 23:33 »
I agree with you.  I may be a bit out of date on this one but the lifecycle of Japanese cars is (used to be) generally 3 years whereas 6 or 7 years for European cars, the result is that many Japanese cars look outdated fairly early on in their life.  They have a good reputation for mechanical reliability but I find the interiors to be somewhat rubbish compared to the German marques.  I will be keeping my Golf GTI pp.
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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #76 on: 14 June 2015, 08:52 »
I agree with you.  I may be a bit out of date on this one but the lifecycle of Japanese cars is (used to be) generally 3 years whereas 6 or 7 years for European cars, the result is that many Japanese cars look outdated fairly early on in their life.  They have a good reputation for mechanical reliability but I find the interiors to be somewhat rubbish compared to the German marques.  I will be keeping my Golf GTI pp.

Better residuals also make a German car relatively cheap vs the RRP. It would be interesting to see what the GFVs are for the Civic R type. If it's in the region of 40-45% RRP after 3 years and the level of discount achievable isn't up around 12% then it's going to end up costing at least £100pm more than an R or a GTI on PCP terms. This R-type will have to be absolutely class-leading for a FWD car to persuade anyone but the Honda fanatics to part with £30k for one.
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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #77 on: 14 June 2015, 09:31 »
The best saving I made on part exchanging a car was my previous Civic Type-R Championship White when i traded it in for my GTI PP.  I paid about £21.5K and got £10K for it after 4.5 years to almost 5 years of ownership.  This is less than £2.5K a year.  Not bad return for a cash bought car.  I completely agree with GTI_Ant about the reliability and finish of the interior.  I also will be keeping my GTI PP.   :smiley:

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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #78 on: 14 June 2015, 10:38 »
I have looked through this thread but cannot see whether this Auto Express Review of the Type R has already been posted.

So here it is:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/civic/91748/type-r?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

That's a good link Asker.
I meant to post this one up the other day too but got sidetracked. Bloody work gets in the way of everything!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlGCZiFyqVw

Note how close the Leon gets to the Civic's time bearing in mind it doesn't have the Sub 8 pack with super sticky tyres.
When we also bear in mind how close the Leon chassis is to the Golf GTI, it says a lot for the MQB platform potential.

I sometimes see on forums that people don't like the VAG stuff as "it's overpriced German rubbish that's boring to look at" which goes to prove that not everyone likes VAG cars and a lot of people don't factor in total ownership costs - merely looking at RRP and retained % (if indeed the latter).
Brenbo also proves a point that there's a good market for used Type R's too so ownership costs should be quite good on them as you'd not expect too many big bills once out of warranty either. Maybe you might get more problems with the newer turbo'd engines but you'd expect Japanese stuff to be pretty well engineered at the very least.
I also see people bemoan the very linear power deliveries of the German cars too, I've often seen comments saying GTI's and R's are a bit boring to drive as there's just power and torque right through the range, where some people like to work at their engine and feel like they've had a good workout after a spirited drive.
So horses for courses.

I kind of like the fact the Civic throws over 300bhp through the front wheels and gets away with it as it's not exactly short on torque either.

I'd still rather live with a GTI or R day to day though. Or a GTD for that matter.
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Re: New Civic Type R - £30k??
« Reply #79 on: 14 June 2015, 13:39 »
I found the Type-R (natural aspirated 201 bhp) due to the low torque a bit less fun than my GTI PP to drive.  The kick from the torque in the GTI is more fun in my opinion.  The fun of a Type-R was the high nature of it's high reving engine and having to get high revs before you got any potential out of it. 

As Exonian says, I would prefer to live with a GTI day to day myself.  I have had several years of Type-R's, done that part of my life now  :smiley: