New Civic Type R - £30k??

[Booth11]

I keep them 3 years, sometimes 4.  I really don't get twitchy before then so am never really tempted to change before the 3 year mark.  It's hard to say why I prefer to buy outright, I simply like to 'own' my car.  It's bit like a house owning (setting the mortgage issue aside) I prefer to own as opposed to renting. 

That said, I think it can only be a good thing that there is a wider choice of options available when it comes to obtaining a car, and I really couldn't care less how someone is paying for their car.  I certainly wouldn't rule out lease or PCP in the future.

Back on topic: I would not buy or lease the Type R even if the deal was super. The car is too Lego-like. If it was being given away for free, then I could possibly be tempted to think twice. On second thoughts: NO.

As I said a minute ago, I am refreshed by Buggaluggs attitude, in part because I'm not like that myself.  Though not necessarily a badge snob (ahem), if I don't like the looks of the car, then it's a no-no from the off.  Shallow I know.  The thing I don't like about the likes of the Type R and co, is the highly stylised looks, often with stupid shaped tailpipes, intakes etc.  They only help to date the car prematurely.  The evolved, perhaps dull looks (not as dull as the A3 though  ) of the Golf is an advantage in this respect.

[monkeyhanger]

I can't imagine many outright buy new cars do they?

Although it is increasingly á la mode to rent a car these days, some of us still do it the old fashioned way, me included.

Depends on the deal, and the car you want.

Despite buying the R, there was a seriously thought provoking lease deal for a second car on HUKD this week. If the missus was a bit further along in her driving lessons, I might've jumped in there. On a 1+17 term, they have Peugeot 208 GTIs for £163 a month. To buy, the depreciation would be horrendous, and PCP terms will be somewhere around twice the monthly lease rate. Should be a fine second car for the monthly cost. There are other cars we'd rather be buying for the kind of money the Peugeot would cost to cover the depreciation over the spell of ownership, but for a deal like that i'd lease.

[CraigW]

I can't imagine many outright buy new cars do they?

Although it is increasingly á la mode to rent a car these days, some of us still do it the old fashioned way, me included.

Depends on the deal, and the car you want.

Despite buying the R, there was a seriously thought provoking lease deal for a second car on HUKD this week. If the missus was a bit further along in her driving lessons, I might've jumped in there. On a 1+17 term, they have Peugeot 208 GTIs for £163 a month. To buy, the depreciation would be horrendous, and PCP terms will be somewhere around twice the monthly lease rate. Should be a fine second car for the monthly cost. There are other cars we'd rather be buying for the kind of money the Peugeot would cost to cover the depreciation over the spell of ownership, but for a deal like that i'd lease.

Do you really need another 'hot hatch for the missus MH', I.e is this her choice or yours 

[monkeyhanger]

I can't imagine many outright buy new cars do they?

Although it is increasingly á la mode to rent a car these days, some of us still do it the old fashioned way, me included.

Depends on the deal, and the car you want.

Despite buying the R, there was a seriously thought provoking lease deal for a second car on HUKD this week. If the missus was a bit further along in her driving lessons, I might've jumped in there. On a 1+17 term, they have Peugeot 208 GTIs for £163 a month. To buy, the depreciation would be horrendous, and PCP terms will be somewhere around twice the monthly lease rate. Should be a fine second car for the monthly cost. There are other cars we'd rather be buying for the kind of money the Peugeot would cost to cover the depreciation over the spell of ownership, but for a deal like that i'd lease.

Do you really need another 'hot hatch for the missus MH', I.e is this her choice or yours 

At that monthly outlay i'd have her get one. If I can't wangle a car share then we'd be alternating cars every week to spread the miles (she's only 8 miles from her work, i'll be 24 miles away in the new job). You can't buy much these days for £163 a month's depreciation.

She'd be happy enough in a mundane 1.2 A1, and i'd begrudge driving it. The Peugeot is surprisingly well equipped, the A1 would need a fair few bits on the options list.

[andrewparker]

I think it looks great, and Honda should be applauded for giving us a car that looks different. Hot hatches have became very subtle recently. Even the new Focus RS has lost it's boxed arches and as a result looks quite normal.

Whether you like the looks of the Type-R or not is down to personal taste, but it looks undeniably fast, more so than an R once off the line.

[Snoopy]

Here we go again with the sour grapes/chip on the shoulder attitude of some non R owners.

It matters not a jot how a car is being paid for. Smart people go for smart deals. As things stand at the present, if you are really smart and are set on acquiring a Performance Golf with a view to economy and don't mind a tractor engine, you should go GTD and definitely not GTI.

The R is the best VW Golf, end of. R owners, whether leasers or outright buyers can be secure in the knowledge that they have the best Performance Golf, that is probably until the R400 is released.

And if someone is driving a better and/or more expensive car than yourself, don't judge them by your own flawed standards as some of you are doing. Just exhibits your own lack of worthiness.

As that was a reply directly after mine i take it it was directed at me. Oh well...
What i was saying was that a new car is no longer a status or afluent statement as it once was. The lad looked and responded was clear what he was thinking and trying to say which i just found funny.
No sour grapes here, or chip on shoulder, if i wanted an R id own an R,  the cost is not even close to been an issue.


On the Honda subject. Its not my taste, but i respect Hondas engineering and assembly quality and rate them far above modern VWs.

[am1w]

Here we go again with the sour grapes/chip on the shoulder attitude of some non R owners.

It matters not a jot how a car is being paid for. Smart people go for smart deals. As things stand at the present, if you are really smart and are set on acquiring a Performance Golf with a view to economy and don't mind a tractor engine, you should go GTD and definitely not GTI.

The R is the best VW Golf, end of. R owners, whether leasers or outright buyers can be secure in the knowledge that they have the best Performance Golf, that is probably until the R400 is released.

And if someone is driving a better and/or more expensive car than yourself, don't judge them by your own flawed standards as some of you are doing. Just exhibits your own lack of worthiness.

As that was a reply directly after mine i take it it was directed at me. Oh well...
What i was saying was that a new car is no longer a status or afluent statement as it once was. The lad looked and responded was clear what he was thinking and trying to say which i just found funny.
No sour grapes here, or chip on shoulder, if i wanted an R id own an R,  the cost is not even close to been an issue.


On the Honda subject. Its not my taste, but i respect Hondas engineering and assembly quality and rate them far above modern VWs.

I actually did not see your post (sorry but true) and it was not directed at you but at a previous poster. Now that I have read your post, it is still not directed at you!

Honda's have very good build quality and I too rate them above modern VWs. However, the Type R for me has challenging looks which I find difficult to accept. Maybe in real life it might be less of an eyesore.

My R has now developed a horrible loud creaking noise from the fake carbon trim (which lights up) on the passenger front door. It is not as securely fitted as the one on the driver's side. Probably needs a new door card. Another warranty issue. I can't see the car being rattle free for its 3 year term with me. Car feels pretty flimsy in a lot of places.

[Black oil]

Here we go again with the sour grapes attitude of some non R owners.

It matters not a jot how a car is being paid for. Smart people go for smart deals. As things stand at the present, if you are really smart and are set on acquiring a Performance Golf with a view to economy and don't mind a tractor engine, you should go GTD and definitely not GTI.

The R is the best VW Golf, end of. R owners, whether leasers or outright buyers can be secure in the knowledge that they have the best Performance Golf, that is probably until the R400 is released.

And if someone is driving a better and/or more expensive car than yourself, don't judge them by your own flawed standards as some of you are doing. Just shows your lack of worthiness.

  just need to mention the word lease and it's like a red rag to bullsh1t.

Haven't you lot got better things to do on a Saturday night?

[Exonian]

Depends on the deal, and the car you want.

Despite buying the R, there was a seriously thought provoking lease deal for a second car on HUKD this week. If the missus was a bit further along in her driving lessons, I might've jumped in there. On a 1+17 term, they have Peugeot 208 GTIs for £163 a month. To buy, the depreciation would be horrendous, and PCP terms will be somewhere around twice the monthly lease rate. Should be a fine second car for the monthly cost. There are other cars we'd rather be buying for the kind of money the Peugeot would cost to cover the depreciation over the spell of ownership, but for a deal like that i'd lease.

I saw that deal in the week too. I quite like the shorter lease term also, but it's a hell of a good price for a decent car.

[am1w]

Some good deals with CVL. Golf R Estate going cheap!
http://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/