Author Topic: Trying to sell and I'm being told I bought the worst type  (Read 10167 times)

Offline domrees

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Hey all

Long time I've been on here....  :rolleyes:

I'm in the process of selling my 3dr GTI.  Been great but I've done 25k in it now and I fancy a change.

I'm being told that as a 3 door manual in white with cloth, it's the worst possible spec.  Sounds like salesman flannel to me but I thought I'd ask the experts....

Should I lower my expectations in terms of value?

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Offline domrees

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So far I've been bid £16k - it's a Nov 13 63 plate - done 25k miles so nicely run in ;-)
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Offline Exonian

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PM me the reg if you like and I'll run a valuation later when I can get on the Mac at home.

Nearly all GTI's are white and many are three doors so probably the sales guys just have too many to choose from. On the flip side they look the best so lots of them get ordered!
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Offline am1w

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The salesman is being a salesman of the worst type. Possibly wants it cheap off you and even more probably he already has a buyer and is after a quick tidy profit. Or give the devil his due, he might be correct with these facts.

But also always remember there is always someone who will like and want your spec of car.

Truth be told, that if I was looking for a GTI or any other hatchback, I personally would not select a white car, a manual, a 3 door. Apologies to Andy.

ETTO.
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Offline domrees

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Cool thanks will do.
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Offline Cossieian

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Trying to sell my White 3 door GTD ATM also, it's a nightmare, people call you up and say well I really wanted a Grey car with 5 doors so I'll give you £18k, if you really wanted a Grey 5 door why you phoning about a white 3 door :laugh:
No matter what people just try and put your car down, pisses me off :sad:

Just this week I was chatting backwards and forwards to a potential buyer, same old story " I've cash and am a 100% genuine buyer", anyway we were back and fourth with price, eventually I said ok you can have it for what you offered, that was 4 days ago and haven't heard back since :sad: I mean why even waste your own time let alone mine

For me if I like something, I buy it, no mucking about, selling cars these days is a bloody nightmare :angry:
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Gone: MK7 Golf GTD (Pure White)

Offline Exonian

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The salesman is being a salesman of the worst type. Possibly wants it cheap off you and even more probably he already has a buyer and is after a quick tidy profit. Or give the devil his due, he might be correct with these facts.

But also always remember there is always someone who will like and want your spec of car.

Truth be told, that if I was looking for a GTI or any other hatchback, I personally would not select a white car, a manual, a 3 door. Apologies to Andy.

ETTO.
That's probably because you're not in the market for a white 3 door Golf GTI Asker!

But if you look around, 95% of sporty Golfs are 5 door GTD's in various colours, 4% are leased R's and a few fractions of a % are either white GTI's, bought R's in white or blue or a very occasional 3 door GTD which tend to be running Santiagos.
3 door manual GTI's are a purists choice, the closest to the original ethos. Most people aren't GTI purists so would order something else.
If you're buying second hand then you have only the choice of what's offered and if you have a brain in your head you buy on condition, everything else comes a poor second.

Edit: The 25000 mileage will be the stumbling block when there are loads of 'direct from VW' examples with minimal mileage.
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Offline monkeyhanger

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You will always get the tyre kickers and time wasters when selling privately. In terms of selling to the dealer - they want to make some money on it so will only be offering 80-85% of what they can achieve on the forecourt: £16k sold to the garage means a bottom sticker price of £19k - I think they're being a bit greedy - no way your car would be up for £19k, £20.5k is more like it.

Sell to a dealer and I think you could expect £17k, sell privately and you're talking £19k - you need to be significantlycheaper than the dealership otherwise the potential buyer will just buy from the dealership.

To put it in perspective, I was offered £18500 p/x for my Sept 63 plate GTD, 5 doors, manual, no extras and Tornado Red, for an expected delivery of my R of March ( :grin: :grin: :grin:). Your GTI might be Nov registered, but to most, a 63 plate is a 63 plate. At best, the fact your car is 3 months younger than a Sept plate is equalled out by your slightly higher than average mileage (My p/x to yours comparison: £18500=£18500). Your GTI has a slightly lower residual than the GTD (£18500>£18000), and a 5 door car is worth £600 more than a 3 door Golf (£18000>£17400). Add in the fact that we're 2 months past March and your car is depreciating £250 a month right now and we're at about £17k trade-in/sale to dealer.

White is by far the most common colour (TR is probably a not so close second, followed by DBP), but most people buying a Golf want 5 doors. Leather/cloth is neither here nor there - no-one expects leather on a Golf, it adds about £300 to your p/x value.

If you can handle the hassle, i'd sell privately and pocket the difference. Tell all potential customers that they need to arrange insurance to get a test drive (that should weed out the time-wasting 17 year old thrill seekers),and to justify your price, have a few examples of current used stock at VW dealerships to demonstrate the private sale savings to be had.

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Offline J400uk

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The salesman is right in that it's just standard spec so not the most valuable. However on the flip side you've lost less cash in depreciation than someone who bought a 5dr DSG with a stack of options!
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Offline am1w

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That's probably because you're not in the market for a white 3 door Golf GTI Asker!

And I hope I never will be.

A VW Golf (or any VW) is white goods. A white VW Golf is white-white white goods. No thanks. :evil:
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