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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #50 on: 13 May 2015, 11:51 »
As Joe said, It must be a rendering as if you look closely at the wheels (on both views), the brake calipers front and rear are on the trailing edges of the wheels, whereas all all MK7's so far (GTD, GTi, GTi PP and R), all have them on the leading edge. Can't see the ED40 getting a totally unique brake setup all of it's own ?
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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #51 on: 13 May 2015, 12:09 »
As Joe said, It must be a rendering as if you look closely at the wheels (on both views), the brake calipers front and rear are on the trailing edges of the wheels, whereas all all MK7's so far (GTD, GTi, GTi PP and R), all have them on the leading edge. Can't see the ED40 getting a totally unique brake setup all of it's own ?

I'd agree, the ED40 will just use whats already available in the parts bin (see my previous post)

The GTI Performance Pack brakes are the same as the Golf R, so will just get these as standard.

The Golf R420 however will most likely get Audi (RS) spec hardware, brakes, exhaust etc
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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #52 on: 13 May 2015, 12:46 »
Not really a clubsport imho unless they have gone mad with weight saving and added some buckets and some decent brakes, they have the 370 set up off the Cupra Performance pack knocking around

Hopefully on the Ed40 they will let you turn the driver aids fully like the R

Will be interesting if the R400/R420 uses the rear diff of the RS3 (actually from a Passat) to put 100% of power to the rear wheels given a Stage 1 R will spin the fronts from launch

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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #53 on: 13 May 2015, 13:03 »
Not really a clubsport imho unless they have gone mad with weight saving and added some buckets and some decent brakes, they have the 370 set up off the Cupra Performance pack knocking around

Hopefully on the Ed40 they will let you turn the driver aids fully like the R

Will be interesting if the R400/R420 uses the rear diff of the RS3 (actually from a Passat) to put 100% of power to the rear wheels given a Stage 1 R will spin the fronts from launch

The standard Golf GTI PP is a good bit lighter than the Golf R and I very much doubt Volkswagen will implement the Carbon roof that was originally planned for the MK7 MQB platform Golf.

I also doubt Volkswagen will change too much from the Golf R to the R420 as the current Golf R is a very good package, think Golf R plus more performance and different body work parts to make it the R420.
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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #54 on: 13 May 2015, 14:01 »
I agree never great when they use the "clubsport" name in vain!  :smiley:

You have to consider their motive, when the product doesn't quite match the marketing perception?

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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #55 on: 13 May 2015, 15:08 »
I agree never great when they use the "clubsport" name in vain!  :smiley:

You have to consider their motive, when the product doesn't quite match the marketing perception?

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I guess as VW own Porsche they know they're not infringing on any copy-writes!

I'd guess that at the project's inception it was a proper Clubsport model and if you google GTI Club Sport you'll see red mk7 GTI with black Talladegas that VW used as a test mule for this model last year. It has on it some hideous rear spoiler which is obviously disguised and a front splitter which will both likely make it onto this model. This car might have originally been intended as a lightweight version which would share lighter panels with the R400 but maybe cost got in the way? The CS would tread on the R's toes price wise and certainly performance wise.
I still haven't seen any photos of the car which will be released at Worthersee in the next day or so if not already.

So yes, just a marketing exercise to whet appetites and get the GTI name back in circulation in this fickle commercial world we live in before the R takes over again when the 400/420 comes on stream. I think with the GTI CS/ED40 it hints at maybe why there's confusion over the R400/420 as there could well be an over-boost feature on the R400 that takes it up to 420 for brief squirts?
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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #56 on: 13 May 2015, 18:51 »
I don't think there is  any copyright on the clubsport name for car models.

The first Porsche to use the name was the 1981 924 Carrera GTS CS, then 1987 911 3.2 Clubsport,  964 RS CS, less well equipped 968CS, followed by 993 RS CS & GT2 CS.

It all got heavier with marketing on the later GT3 cars were offered a clubsport pack, so lost it's way then.

Don't forget BMW treated us in 2004 to the E46 330 Ci Clubsport with extra tat on it making it heavier than the standard 330Ci !  :smiley:

The Golf seems to be in the mould of the BMW.

Please don't get the impression I am anti Gti, have owned several and on here to decide on a Mk7 PP or Ed30 as my next daily driver.
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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #57 on: 13 May 2015, 19:15 »
Must be a clubsport theme going on in VAG towers with this TT concept too :)


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Re: Edition 40???
« Reply #58 on: 14 May 2015, 03:59 »
Press release yesterday:

"World premiere of the Golf GTI Clubsport at Lake Wörthersee

Exclusive anniversary model for 40th birthday of the GTI
Golf GTI Clubsport debuts with 265 PS and boost function

Next year, the Golf GTI celebrates its 40th birthday. Volkswagen is marking this historic event with a progressive anniversary model: the new Golf GTI Clubsport. Volkswagen will be showcasing the Golf GTI Clubsport on 14th May as part of the legendary GTI meet at Lake Wörthersee, when it will make its world premiere in the form of a near-production concept car.

With a power output of 195 kW / 265 PS (35 PS more than the Golf GTI Performance) and top performance temporarily increased by around a further 10 per cent thanks to a boost function, the Golf GTI Clubsport is set to take off at the start of 2016 as the most powerful production 'GTI' yet. The anniversary model is being launched not only with an extremely powerful engine, but also with an individualised interior and exclusive bodywork details.

The design modifications include a completely new front bumper, new side sills, a new and aerodynamically highly innovative roof-edge spoiler and a specially developed rear diffuser. All of these features were designed with the aim of further enhancing the GTI's performance and of thereby bringing form and function into perfect harmony. The interplay of the very high power output thanks to the boost function and significantly improved levels of downforce move the Golf GTI Clubsport into the realms of motorsport driving dynamics. Consequently, handling remains extremely stable even at very high speeds. Breath-taking cornering speeds are also possible. The new Golf GTI Clubsport thus makes a great case for itself as unadulterated sports car."

Already really enthusiastic about this version!

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« Reply #59 on: 14 May 2015, 13:31 »
https://de-de.facebook.com/autobild/posts/10152911570415975

Kind of like the front bumper, not so sure on the rear spoiler or the wheels. Pipes look bigger.