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Offline golfgtiboss

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HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« on: 20 March 2015, 13:12 »
Hi guys, long time lurker here deciding now is the time to finally buy a golf GTI.
Currently looking at a 3 door in solid white with the following options:
- Discover nav
- Keyless entry
- Park assist

I currently own (no finance) a 2008 BMW 120d with 65k miles, which i would rather trade in than sell privately. I do not want to buy the GTI outright. The plan is just to lease/PCP and change every 2-3 years. I have been to orangewheels and seen that i can get around £4243 off the list price for this car but that would mean i would have to travel to the location of the dealer and maybe not get a good part ex deal....?

I have not been to my local dealer in Newcastle to see what they can do yet as i didn't want to go in unprepared.

Could anyone provide with me with advice on the best way to proceed as i am quite inexperienced

Thanks very much

Offline CraigW

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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #1 on: 20 March 2015, 13:32 »
Preparation and research is key. Firstly, try and establish what your own car is worth, parkers and what car provide free valuations. Then get as many quotes as possible from the likes of Orange wheels, DTD, Car wow. Once you have done this then approach your local dealer armed with the information. They are very unlikely to be able to match the brokers price but you want them to come as close as possible.

I put a deposit down on mine and then arranged finance through VW but i knew exactly where i wanted my monthly payments to be, approx £300. Do not let them bully you. Never accept the first offer and be prepared to walk away if you have to, they are very likely to pursue you if they see you are genuinely interested.

Going in knowledgeable about the car and exactly what you want will let them know that they are dealing with a customer who knows their stuff.
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Offline Mark V GTD

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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #2 on: 20 March 2015, 16:32 »
Good advice from Craig.

Mine would be to concentrate on the new car. Order it from Drivethedeal or carwow with a huge discount. Not much negotiation to be had in the finance deal - it all hinges on the cost of the car but you can adjust what you are paying by altering mileage and scheme length etc.

Then you can concentrate on selling the BMW - you will have a few months to sort that out. I say this because the biggest saving is going to be the percentage off the list price by taking a brokered offer - there is less money to be 'saved' by getting a fabulous price for the old car compared with a cheap private sale or disposal to the trade.

And if you really cannot stomach the notion of selling the old car yourself you will have to negotiate with the broker introduced dealer who will give you 'bottom book' for it. That might be a little more than 'We Buy Any Car' but get a price from them too and you will soon start to see things in perspective.

Oh and put the concerns about the location/distance of the broker introduced dealer out of your mind - you will only visit them once to pick up the car and the saving will more than take care of your train fare.

« Last Edit: 20 March 2015, 16:34 by Mark V GTD »

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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #3 on: 20 March 2015, 23:11 »
Found out today you can get a brand new Mk 7 gti for £400 a month on leasehire with no deposit!
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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #4 on: 21 March 2015, 18:23 »
Found out today you can get a brand new Mk 7 gti for £400 a month on leasehire with no deposit!

Some decent GTI lease deals from CVL -

http://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/detail/57539/volkswagen/golf_hatchback.html

Excess is 7.2ppm inc. VAT.
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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #5 on: 21 March 2015, 20:09 »
Found out today you can get a brand new Mk 7 gti for £400 a month on leasehire with no deposit!

How long is the term.
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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #6 on: 22 March 2015, 08:12 »
4 yrs, but you can swap it for another after 2.
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Re: HELP me buy a new Golf GTI
« Reply #7 on: 22 March 2015, 09:19 »
Hi guys, long time lurker here deciding now is the time to finally buy a golf GTI.
Currently looking at a 3 door in solid white with the following options:
- Discover nav
- Keyless entry
- Park assist

I currently own (no finance) a 2008 BMW 120d with 65k miles, which i would rather trade in than sell privately. I do not want to buy the GTI outright. The plan is just to lease/PCP and change every 2-3 years. I have been to orangewheels and seen that i can get around £4243 off the list price for this car but that would mean i would have to travel to the location of the dealer and maybe not get a good part ex deal....?

I have not been to my local dealer in Newcastle to see what they can do yet as i didn't want to go in unprepared.

Could anyone provide with me with advice on the best way to proceed as i am quite inexperienced

Thanks very much

Local lad (or lass)! If you are looking to get a GTI then I suggest going to a few different dealerships in the region. I've never done well negotiating with Benfield Silverlink, they never seem interested in big discounts. Benfield Scotswood road can be OK if you press them hard and the timing is right (if they are chasing a sales target), sometimes they are disinterested and always lowball you on the p/x or are non-committal on the p/x price because they are unsure when the GTI will arrive. If you do try Scotswood Road, seek "Jenny Dixon" out, she's always been the best for me there in relation to negotiating discount.

For my last 2 VWs, I have ended up with Pulman, their p/x prices for nearly new VWs are usually markedly better than Benfield's, which for me has ended up being the clincher. Again it depends who you speak to, I have always found "Mick Stones" most receptive to the biggest levels of discount and a fair p/x price (but a 2 year old GTD is going to be of greater interest to them than an 8 year old BMW).

As said before - do you homework, know what the best broker price is and what the worst p/x price is for yours (you will only get "webuyanycar" money for your 7 year old BMW, they have no interest in selling a car older than 5 years on their forecourt unless it is something specialist and rare). Get them to match that price to change.

You should do well getting a discount on a GTI now - don't let the £750 deposit contribution come into the deal, that should be in place on top of your deal if you are PCPing. Definitely don't let them negotiate on monthly payment terms rather than actual price either. If you get the actual price right, the monthly payments will look after themselves.

To be brutally honest though, with your trade-in being too old to be of interest to them, i'd save yourself the hassle of bartering and go straight to a broker. Order the GTI at their price, ask for the £750 deposit contribution on top nearer the time when you get your VW finance sorted (if you are going that route) and get rid of your car privately either through a private sale or a "webuyanycar" style website (some will beat them by at least £100). You might have to travel to a North West dealership to pick up your broker-sourced car.

A local dealer usually will be looking to bamboozle you with optional extras or reducing discount and increasing PCP term to keep the monthly figures the same - you really do have to keep your wits about you to avoid it and know exactly at what price you will do a deal and what price you will walk away.

See what discount the brokers (drivethedeal, Orangewheels, UKnewcars etc) are doing for your desired car with the options you want.

There is another option - keep an eye ouf for an exceptional lease deal, sell your BMW use some of it to pay the initial lease payment and pocket/bank the difference. There have been some great lease deals recently (leasing works best on a car with few or no options though - options bump up the monthly payments a lot)
« Last Edit: 22 March 2015, 09:29 by monkeyhanger »
Whey ya bugger! It's finally arrived after an 8 month wait....
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