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Offline vw_golf_nutter

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heater not working
« on: 02 March 2015, 10:06 »
hi all, i just bought a 89 mk2 golf gti and the heater isnt working.. the blowers work but its just cold, the blowers smell a bit like burnt oil thought..
can anyone help with what is wrong? ive heard its a common thing so hoping its easy to fix. thanks

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #1 on: 02 March 2015, 13:09 »
sounds like your heater matrix is toast
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Offline Waspy

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #2 on: 02 March 2015, 13:31 »
Heater Matrix for sure.

Common? Yes
Easy Fix? ... erm...

Its not difficult, but it is a PITA.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=68989.0

Good luck, and have fun!  :grin:
It's a mk2. Fill it, drive it, enjoy it.  :smiley:

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #3 on: 02 March 2015, 23:52 »
Probably NOT the matrix at all, unless you have water in the interior footwells! (Check whether your coolant system does actually have sufficient water in it to start with!)
Most likely is that the "By pass valves" are playing up, and water is not circulating through the matrix.
If possible, check to see whether your car has had a new matrix fitted in the last 5 or so years.... most likely it has, so it will be safe to remove the By Pass valves, and return the car to how it left the factory.

By Pass valves were fitted by the dealer in the early days, because of a problem that was greatly exaggerated when a Matrix could burst, and dump hot water into the footwells

Later matrix were modified to be stronger under pressure, and eliminate the problem.

99% of cars don't run By Pass valves, because they're not needed, the Mk2 is no different

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #4 on: 03 March 2015, 00:01 »
Funny, my car didn't have bypass valves, and when I took the matrix out it seemed to be the original (looked like it anyway, the sticker on it looked that way). Obviously nobody bothered to get them fitted to mine  :laugh:

Regardless, replaced the matrix and now get nice hot air :)
It's a mk2. Fill it, drive it, enjoy it.  :smiley:

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #5 on: 03 March 2015, 00:24 »
Funny, my car didn't have bypass valves, and when I took the matrix out it seemed to be the original (looked like it anyway, the sticker on it looked that way). Obviously nobody bothered to get them fitted to mine  :laugh:

Regardless, replaced the matrix and now get nice hot air :)

10 to 12 years is about what you'd get from a factory fitted Matrix so your car is possibly on its 2nd, My OE unit was replace about 7 years ago, it was a Valeo unit from factory, and they are still available today, and look identical.

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #6 on: 03 March 2015, 00:35 »
Yeah the one I took out was a Valeo, which made me think of was original. My car has a checkered history at best. I know someone BOUGHT a matrix as I have the receipt, but the one they bought wasn't Valeo. The receipt shows the matrix being bought in 2009. But it wasn't fitted, because the one I took out didn't match the one in the receipt. Which leads me to think the matrix had been broken at least 5 years until I got my hands on it. It's all fun and games!
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Re: heater not working
« Reply #7 on: 03 March 2015, 00:49 »
Yeah the one I took out was a Valeo, which made me think of was original. My car has a checkered history at best. I know someone BOUGHT a matrix as I have the receipt, but the one they bought wasn't Valeo. The receipt shows the matrix being bought in 2009. But it wasn't fitted, because the one I took out didn't match the one in the receipt. Which leads me to think the matrix had been broken at least 5 years until I got my hands on it. It's all fun and games!

The cheap versions leaked within a few weeks of installation! it's likely that your faulty unit was replaced FOC with the better quality Valeo unit, hence the paperwork not tying up with the brand fitted

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #8 on: 03 March 2015, 17:59 »
By pass the valve and see if you get hot air. Heritiage do straight pipes if you decide to bin the by pass.

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Re: heater not working
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2015, 20:03 »
i am so confused lol.
ok so ive been through all of the service history with the car... there is a lot since it was new but i wouldnt say it was complete, still no sign of a heater matrix being replaced.
there is no water in the footwells and there is water in the coolant bottle...

how do i check for bypass valves? i dont really know where im supposed to look, not had to mess with the heating before