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Offline Laffo

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Used GTI second thoughts.
« on: 20 February 2015, 18:45 »
Hi,
I've agreed a deal with a VW  dealer to buy a 2014 GTI with DSG and Santiago wheels.
Problem is the more I read on forums and reviews I know I should have gone for a car with performance pack, better brakes, safer cornering even suggestions that in the snow it behaves like a four wheel drive!
I've agreed a part exchange price, signed the forms, paid a deposit and should collect in a weeks time.
Can I use the Das Welt " no quibble guarantee " to choose a different car even though I haven't collected it yet?
Thanks.

Offline mcmaddy

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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #1 on: 20 February 2015, 18:51 »
You should have 7 days cooling off period in case you change your mind.
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Offline charlie

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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2015, 19:30 »
Ye you can mate just tell them you want pp and they will find you one but it will probably be dearer :smiley:
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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2015, 19:34 »
You can read too much sometimes until you don't know your a**e from your elbow  :grin:
Sleep on it and see how you feel tomorrow. I have the performance pack and probably haven't stretched its capability beyond 60% of what it could do  You make it sound as though the standard GTI is a death trap. It's not its a great car and will put a big smile on your face every time you drive it !!
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Offline mistertee

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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2015, 20:53 »
I've got  pp and never pushed it hard enough to feel the benefit. It'll keep its value better though.

I'm sure the dealer would find you one with pp, it's more money for them.

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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #5 on: 20 February 2015, 21:13 »
A GTI with the PP is "better" than an GTI without it, however it's only you that can decide whether it's worth paying the extra for what you get? Plenty of people on here that have non PP cars are more than happy and rightfully so, it is a very capable hot hatch.
I'm not sure about it being like a 4wd in the snow though?? It'll still spin it's front wheels like any other fwd hatch.
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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #6 on: 20 February 2015, 21:44 »
How much better is a PP GTI than a normal GTI?

Aside from the bigger brakes the two cars feel almost identical.
If you're going to modify your car at a later date then the PP would be very handy I guess.

To cut a long story short, my PP GTI is the first mk7 I'd driven. I have a VERY long history with Golf GTI's and their close cousins and just *had* to have a PP GTI, and after I drove it I thought it was by far the best front wheel drive hatch I'd ever driven (I've owned about 25 cars in my time).
Then a friend of mine got a standard white 5 door GTI as a company car and I immediately noticed it handled just the same!
My PP GTI will happily spin the wheels on less than perfect roads through the first three gears if I'm clumsy - not something I practice but found out by accident one day whilst pulling out of a junction in heavy traffic.
Then said friend had the loan of a few GTD's through his work too and so naturally I drove them. Lo and behold they handle exactly like a GTI, PP or no PP.

I'm sure with a better driver than me on less than perfect roads the VAQ diff will come into its own when pushing on, but it was very much a placebo with me until I'd driven a standard GTI then a couple GTDs.
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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #7 on: 20 February 2015, 22:53 »
How much better is a PP GTI than a normal GTI?

Aside from the bigger brakes the two cars feel almost identical.
If you're going to modify your car at a later date then the PP would be very handy I guess.

To cut a long story short, my PP GTI is the first mk7 I'd driven. I have a VERY long history with Golf GTI's and their close cousins and just *had* to have a PP GTI, and after I drove it I thought it was by far the best front wheel drive hatch I'd ever driven (I've owned about 25 cars in my time).
Then a friend of mine got a standard white 5 door GTI as a company car and I immediately noticed it handled just the same!
My PP GTI will happily spin the wheels on less than perfect roads through the first three gears if I'm clumsy - not something I practice but found out by accident one day whilst pulling out of a junction in heavy traffic.
Then said friend had the loan of a few GTD's through his work too and so naturally I drove them. Lo and behold they handle exactly like a GTI, PP or no PP.

I'm sure with a better driver than me on less than perfect roads the VAQ diff will come into its own when pushing on, but it was very much a placebo with me until I'd driven a standard GTI then a couple GTDs.


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In normal everyday driving there is pretty much no difference in the way they feel and if thats all you want it for then you'd probably save your pennies, like you when i ordered mine i HAD to have the PP knowing i would probably never get the most from it, just because it was "better". :smug:
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Offline GrahamFR

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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #8 on: 20 February 2015, 23:20 »
I dont think I'd want smaller brakes tho, in fact I'm thinking of changing or at least uprating the pads. Could just be me and not being able to change the brake on vcds like I could before but they dont feel as sharp as I'm used, most likely better stopping but still feels less if you know what I mean
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Re: Used GTI second thoughts.
« Reply #9 on: 21 February 2015, 00:17 »
The diff is not going to make the car any better in the snow. In fact it is likely to be more tricky - prone to terminal understeer under power (grip will return if you get off the throttle)...

Whilst the brakes on the PP are bigger, they aren't much of an upgrade and on the road you won't see much benefit...

However, if I were buying and I could get a PP for similar money, that's what I would have...
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