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Offline corgi

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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #10 on: 16 February 2015, 17:22 »
Not totally familiar with the wheel hop issues on Golf 7 GTD, but on all previous Golf chassis types it is closely related to gearbox and engine mounts – because they allow some movement to absorb vibrations etc, the standard mounts reverberate under duress, eg excessive drivetrain torque reaction. The trick to ameliorate wheel hop / tramp on the Mk 4 Golf was always to fit the uprated "dogbone" mount, also on the Mk 5/6 chassis to fit the poly inserts into the voids of the standard bottom mount. I presume that there are, by now, uprated gearbox and engine mounts available for the Mk 7 too... eg Volkswagen Racing

it is not just the engine mounts. The suspension allows some flex for the same reason (rubber bushes)...

Uprated engine mounts and bushes may alleviate the issue somewhat but at the expense of dramatically increased vibration and significantly harsher ride... the cure may be worse than the disease for a daily driver...

There is another answer... in the cold and/or wet use less throttle... or buy some different tyres...  :cool:
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #11 on: 17 February 2015, 10:41 »

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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #12 on: 17 February 2015, 11:00 »
Interesting, but not for a GTD :(

Am I right in saying that changing the engine mount shouldnt actually effect the ride?
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #13 on: 17 February 2015, 12:20 »
The uprated mounts will not affect the ride... but will transmit more engine vibration into the cabin... not sure how much though.

The vendors of this stuff won't give you the downside...
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #14 on: 17 February 2015, 12:59 »
I guess nobody fits performance parts to increase comfort :D
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Offline GrahamFR

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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #15 on: 17 February 2015, 14:36 »
I fitted the neuspeed insert, made barley any difference in terms of vibration, honestly. I fitted a neuspeed one to my diesel FR and it was horrible, shook my car apart, do not get one with a diesel if you don't want an even more rattly car.
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #16 on: 17 February 2015, 15:04 »
Maybe thats why I can't seem to find anyone offering one!
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #17 on: 17 February 2015, 15:13 »
Maybe thats why I can't seem to find anyone offering one!

Apologies mate it was powerflex not neuspeed http://www.awesomegti.com/brand/powerflex/powerflex-bush-pff85-504r-68406

But you tell me if there is any difference lol http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/neuspeed-engine-torque-arm-insert

that neuspeed one looks like it will fit your car, but its at your own comfort risk.
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #18 on: 17 February 2015, 15:54 »
Actually, that second link does say:

NOTE: Urethane is not as compliant as rubber. As a result, you may notice a slight increase in ride harshess and engine vibration after installation. Not recommeded for TDI vehicles.

Sounds like its not a good plan :)
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Re: GTD Wheel hop/tramping testing
« Reply #19 on: 17 February 2015, 16:07 »
Uprated suspension bushes it is then, dont know whose pumping them out yet but powerflex would be a good shout to start at.
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