Talk some sense into me...

[carl1]

So Carl1 having never driven a gtd you're passing comment on them being tractors etc etc. Try driving one first and then tell us what you think.

Yes i am regarding the sound, it's not like i'm saying I don't like playing football on Mars i don't like the playing surface.

I'm not having a go at GTD owners either, but at the end of the day it's a diesel and they are not as refined as a petrol. I'm just trying to convince someone not to change a GTI to a GTD unless they did big miles. I considered one myself but i couldn't get one cheaper than i got my GTI PP and i may get one in the future but i wouldn't swop a 18 month old GTI for one, i'd wait until the next model.

[ffrank]

Some sound for you Carl1 sounds a lot better in person than this video, but gives you an idea.

http://youtu.be/9OqRKMyINnc

As for refinement, the diesel is whisper quiet when cruising. I may be wrong but I think the GTD has more sound proofing then the GTI to help with this, either way its very hushed.

[monkeyhanger]

Some sound for you Carl1 sounds a lot better in person than this video, but gives you an idea.

http://youtu.be/9OqRKMyINnc

As for refinement, the diesel is whisper quiet when cruising. I may be wrong but I think the GTD has more sound proofing then the GTI to help with this, either way its very hushed.

Not sure if it's that, or just that a cruising diesel is quieter than a cruising petrol anyway - as it's sitting at lower revs doing what it's doing. If you look at the back of the brochure, they've got the GTD a few db lower than a GTI.

[carl1]

Some sound for you Carl1 sounds a lot better in person than this video, but gives you an idea.

http://youtu.be/9OqRKMyINnc

As for refinement, the diesel is whisper quiet when cruising. I may be wrong but I think the GTD has more sound proofing then the GTI to help with this, either way its very hushed.

Yeah that sounds decent but i could stick a box on the other half's TDI and  stick a camera on it at the back and you won't hear the engine and it would sound ok. Whats it like up front? i bet it's a different story and i don't want to hear a Vw speaker 
P.s im not saying the GTi sound great either 

[carl1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Rt6s1YaCkOr their's this one 

[Poached]

If I already had a perfectly fine GTI, i'd personally be reluctant to swap prematurely for a GTD, the additional depreciation hit of chopping in early will bit into those mpg savings and petrol is so cheap now.

Ahh, there's reluctant and there's dismissing it as lunacy!
If the GTD was coming with a £5k discount then that's an awful lot of the first year depreciation gobbled up so therefore there are quite a few costs to be balanced up and fuel economy isn't one of the main ones. The fuel economy advantage for me would be gobbled up quickly as I do a lowish annual mileage and therefore the first service would wipe that out as my GTI is on a service plan.
There are other factors to consider such as general lower running costs, potentially better resale value, and insurance, additional tank range and the fact I quite like quick TDI's once they've been fettled with a little (the power spread is in the right rev band for road use without thrashing the car - I'm not a 0-60 sprinter).
So a lowish cost GTD kept for a shortish time is being factored into more long term plans...

It was just a thought, going from an unplanned conversation with a guy in a suit with not too much to do at the time...

There wont be much between the cars in terms of costs overall.

Sounds like you might be after a waft-mobile, maybe 530d?

[Poached]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Rt6s1YaCkOr their's this one 

They don't sound amazing, but they are most definitely better than that.

[Exonian]

Sounds like you might be after a waft-mobile, maybe 530d?

Having spent a bit of time with a 335d x-drive I'd say that despite my utter respect for the thing it wasn't my cup of tea. It absolutely destroyed straight sections of road but corners... Not so good.

My other car is an old school GTI and it has to be said I do like a very agile front driver as despite me not being into high revving engines I so like to blast through the twisties a bit.

I can appreciate a good wafter but I'm
All about smallish, lightish and quickish.

[Booth11]

Monsieur Ex

It was only a few weeks back you were saying, having rediscovered driving the gti, that you'd forgotten just how good it was.  Both gtd and gti great cars, but unless your regular mileage has suddenly increased, it seems a little fanciful to make the switch.

Why not just relax and enjoy your gti for a while, until you finally decide to get the R 

I don't think you're quite at the full pipe and slippers stage yet, maybe just approaching the top of that slope 

[monkeyhanger]

I have to admit iv'e never driven a mk7 GTD but i was next to one but behind by the exhaust and it sounded quite nice, ( i presume sound pack) but only on tickover. I just can't imagine on full chat at 4k (yea 4k remember that Exonian) it will sound anything like nice. When i imagine a diesel engine sound at 4k, its like someone just stood on my grave.

You most definitely will have heard a sound-pack one if you preferred it to your GTI at idle.

You're completely backwards in your perception of sound vs revs - at a tickover (on a normal GTD) you will hear the characteristic diesel rattle (albeit quieter than some marques - the BMW 2.0td unit has more of an idle rattle), at 4k revs you won't, it'll sound pretty much like the GTI - a 4cyl 16v 2ltr turboed car (diesel or petrol) from the same manufacturer is going to sound pretty much the same at 4k revs unless the exhaust is significantly different between the 2. Once you get past around 1600rpm, the diesel "clatter" is gone from the engine note.

In Normal mode (without Soundaktor), the R under high load sounded pretty much like my GTD under high load (the turbo whine was a little different) when I was on my 2nd test drive of the R.

I'd suggest you stop imagining something upon which to base an opinion and find out before passing comment.