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Offline Exonian

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Talk some sense into me...
« on: 07 January 2015, 05:25 »
So there I was having a chat to a sales guy about nothing in particular after I'd popped in to order a touch up stick as I have one tiny mark that's bugging me (as they do).

I was just telling him I'd had a couple of drives in white GTDs recently and was impressed (as we were stood by a white one at the time).
"We've got a late 2014 pre reg over there that needs clearing from stock, we've just dropped it £5k"
At that point my eyes opened quite widely and it went to take a look.
White paint plus basic nav being the only options.

Now, I bought my GTI in a spec I wanted, and added the service pack expecting to keep it at least 3 years until the Edition 40 hit the road.
The R doesn't really appeal to me (but I'd have leased one at the cheapo deal prices if I'd been in the poison to) as I seldom use more than 4000 revs anyway as I generally have passengers on board.

So that GTD lacks a few toys I'd want but financially speaking it's already dropped most of its first year depreciation and has five doors too (I got a 3 door for vanity reasons as I preferred the styling but it has been a minor pain in the botty).

He's offered me a fair price on the GTI to boot.

Help!

Yes, the GTI is nippy and revvy but I love the GTD torque kick on a manual car too (you seem to feel it less in a DSG), and there's always the option of a Trevor at a later date...
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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #1 on: 07 January 2015, 07:46 »
You need a Trevor, transforms the car! Missing mine a lot (my dad now has it), but my logic was that i'll appreciate the R more having an extra 116ps vs an extra 60ps and significantly less torque. my mpg is definitely worse without the Trevor (was getting an indicated 47mpg on my commute with an actual 43mpg, now it's like indicated 41mpg/actual 40mpg and more regens to boot.

Did you get a look at the tyres? I do hope they weren't Bridgestones, I really should have got shot of those on day one, they ruin the car's potential.  I bet my car couldn't crack 0-62 in 8.5s with those on.

I'm buying the R purely to scratch an itch after 7 new TDIs in a row, and my GTD feels so sterile in its standard form vs my old Scirocco 170TDI, with the addition of Bridgestone tramping frustrations.

If these new fuel prices are going to be around for a while (and with US fracking online as well as the global will to punish Russia's economy right now, I can't see us going back over $70 a barrel for years), I think that the petrol option will be appealing to more people.

Without a Trevor i'd say don't do it, with a Trevor it's a real possibility to think about - i'd rather have a Trevored GTD than a standard GTI, but right now i'd rather have the R than either of them.
« Last Edit: 07 January 2015, 07:48 by monkeyhanger »
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Offline ffrank

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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #2 on: 07 January 2015, 10:49 »
I was just thinking this week how awesome the gearbox is in the GTD, the combination really is a pleasure to drive (and when I say drive I don't mean sitting in traffic!)

The torque is brilliant, and the engine revs much freer than previous diesels I've driven. It's just a great overall package.

As Monkeyhanger says, Trevor is probably a must have one day. I still haven't taken the leap, as the GTD is definitely fast enough for me, but I will one day as it does sound incredible to drive. First service in a couple of months so might add it after that..

Comparing to the GTI is definitely trickier, and your situation an intriguing one! I chose the GTD based on overall costs, but didn't feel like I was compromising as I love the diesel style of driving. I don't remember all the figures, but based on the improved depreciation, fuel and tax, I was saving £100 a month or so over the GTI.

In your situation although you will pocket savings on running costs (unless you were only doing very short journeys!) I don't know if you will be making savings on ownership, based on how your cars are financed, and if you are losing out in the overall early trade in.

So it (probably) comes down to, what you fancy! If you fancy the GTD, I would say go for it. It's an awesome car, and probably slightly more of a wolf in sheeps clothing than the GTI - which may explain why a 1.2 Colt kept trying to race me last night  :rolleyes:


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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #3 on: 07 January 2015, 13:51 »
Are you currently sitting with two pencils up your nose and a pair of underpants on your head repeatedly saying wibble??  :grin:

I can't see the sense in this to be honest. Would you be having to pay additional pennies to swap?

Offline wigit

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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #4 on: 07 January 2015, 13:57 »
stick with the GTI :)

stay away from the R, it will corrupt you, i drove mine for the first time in two weeks and forgot how good it was :grin:

ask yourself this do you want to be a person who looks around at the fuel station for the derv gloves :)

Offline JBirchy

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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #5 on: 07 January 2015, 14:12 »
stick with the GTI :)

stay away from the R, it will corrupt you, i drove mine for the first time in two weeks and forgot how good it was :grin:

ask yourself this do you want to be a person who looks around at the fuel station for the derv gloves :)

+ 1 -  :grin:
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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #6 on: 07 January 2015, 16:23 »
I can't say I have ever got diesel anywhere other than inside the fuel tank  :huh:


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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #7 on: 07 January 2015, 16:55 »
Andy, you've got that itch again. Control it if you can, dear bean.
BTW what is a Trevor?
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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #8 on: 07 January 2015, 17:19 »
Perhaps this song might convince you to stick with the GTI:

Ode to the GTi by Sir Cliff Richard
Words adapted by am1w

When I was young my father said
"Son I have something to say",
And what he told me I'll never forget
Until my dyin' day.
He said, "Son you are a GTi boy,
And that's the way to stay,
Son, you be a GTi boy until your dyin' day".

When I was sixteen I fell in love
With a girl as sweet as could be.
But I remembered just in time
What my daddy said to me.
He said, "Son you are a GTi boy,
And that's the way to stay.
Son, you be a GTi boy until your dyin' day."

« Last Edit: 07 January 2015, 17:20 by am1w »
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Re: Talk some sense into me...
« Reply #9 on: 07 January 2015, 17:25 »
Sounds like you know the answer, keep the GTI.