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Offline am1w

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #70 on: 27 November 2014, 14:11 »
It seems Mark Walton of Car Magazine, will be running a long term R.
He has already done a mini-comparison (which IMO is on the money) between his long term GTI PP and the R which will replace the former.
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #71 on: 27 November 2014, 14:45 »
pitty VW did not lend Autocar a GTI for this weeks top 50 test
VWFS need to get the R in a place where they don't have several thousand ex-leasers and PCP cars in negative equity on their hands and thus bolster up the used prices for all of their niche sporty models.
Not that any money or favours will have changed hands anywhere along the line…


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Not that I have any cynicism issues.


have to admit if i go R400 i'm tempted to get an Ed40 as a daily
I still can't see where VW will go with the ED40.
The PP is so close to the R on price as it is, by the time an engine upgrade, bodykit and different wheels and interior embellishments are factored in, do we get a car with 240bhp and VAQ at close to the PP price, or do we get a GTI with Cupra engine and VAQ and R400 lightweight panels for R money? hmmmm...
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #72 on: 27 November 2014, 15:47 »
pitty VW did not lend Autocar a GTI for this weeks top 50 test
VWFS need to get the R in a place where they don't have several thousand ex-leasers and PCP cars in negative equity on their hands and thus bolster up the used prices for all of their niche sporty models.
Not that any money or favours will have changed hands anywhere along the line…
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Not that I have any cynicism issues.

Andy, my dearest chap.
My R will be worth 68p after 3 years and for old times sake, you can have it for 69p (very French!). But I'll buy you the dinner I have promised you for ages.  :kiss:
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #73 on: 27 November 2014, 21:38 »
Well drove the R today for the first time in dsg and was very impressed . It certainly felt different to my mk6 gti with a much better quality cabin and materials.

Dsg box was very smooth and i felt the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive running gear gave a planted feel on the road. Could not help feeling it needed more power.
The traction was never troubled even out of roundabouts with full gas in 2nd gear which was a huge contrast to the M3  saloon 2 weeks ago.

Overall a very competent vehicle just not sure if it felt  special enough .

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #74 on: 27 November 2014, 21:40 »
Ps what is with the tiny sat nav screen ?

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #75 on: 28 November 2014, 11:36 »
More traction and more bhp doesn't necessarily = more fun!

For instance if I'm having a spirited drive in my 30K+ M135i round twisty B roads somewhere it doesn't necessarily mean the next guy behind me isn't having more fun hanging on in his 5K+ Clio 182 :smiley:



 
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #76 on: 28 November 2014, 14:19 »
More traction and more bhp doesn't necessarily = more fun!
For instance if I'm having a spirited drive in my 30K+ M135i round twisty B roads somewhere it doesn't necessarily mean the next guy behind me isn't having more fun hanging on in his 5K+ Clio 182 :smiley:

Call me new fashioned, but I don't like twitchy fronts and rears. On-the-rails for me in wet and dry. Now how boring is that?  :grin: 
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #77 on: 28 November 2014, 15:00 »
Realistically, the best position would be to have something that is super trick and safe for day to day driving (which most of us do 99.9999% of the time) and then some sort of fun mode available for those other times where things can get proper leery :D

I looked really long and hard at a GT86 before I got my Golf... I'm sure that fits the bill perfectly, except that I can't get my Spaniel in the boot!

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #78 on: 28 November 2014, 16:04 »
Realistically, the best position would be to have something that is super trick and safe for day to day driving (which most of us do 99.9999% of the time) and then some sort of fun mode available for those other times where things can get proper leery :D

I looked really long and hard at a GT86 before I got my Golf... I'm sure that fits the bill perfectly, except that I can't get my Spaniel in the boot!

Fred

I'd like a shot in one of those. But they are a bit impractical for family duties ( or dogs )  :smiley:

A bit like the Audi TT. Always fancied one of those (yes I know gay hair dressers car). I guess I'll just have to wait until the kids leave home and I'm on my third mid life crisis. 


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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #79 on: 28 November 2014, 16:29 »
I'm sure Eddie the Spaniel would fit in the boot, but the RSPCA might object :D

As for the kids.... well, I guess they'd be alright... in the boot :D
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