31 Weeks lead time for an R

[Booth11]

Just thought I would give a little update on where I am now after I started this thread. After failing to agree a deal that suited and was about to walk away I was offered a proper curve ball.
We found a car in the system with a fairly basic spec that wasn't confirmed for production. My dealer spoke to VW UK to confirm we could alter the spec without pushing the build too far into next year and they have put an order in for my ideal spec without me having a commitment to buy (which I have in writing signed by the sales manager) when the car turns up providing we reach a deal I will buy if not I walk away no strings attached.
As of today it is at Stage 3 "Your order has been confirmed for production week commencing 21/12/14 Wk51!!
I also had it confirmed that if I do have it I can have it Mar 1st
Spec:  Golf R 3dr Lapiz Blue DSG, Pretoria's, Dynaudio, Discover Nav, Rear Camera, Keyless Entry

That's a result.  But, as there's now an R on order, with your ideal spec, a reasonable delivery slot, which appears to be what you wanted initially, why do you want the option to walk away, do you want an R or not?   Initially, it appeared that the long lead in time was putting you off but this has been shortened now.   I don't suppose it matters as you'll either take it or leave it, I'm just curious 

Nice spec btw 

[JB GTI]

I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was when firm timescales were known they would give a proper px price which they would not commit to when they weren't sure when the car would turn up and also reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st   

[Booth11]

I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was that a more favourable deal would be possible around February as it will be a much slower month for them and reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st   

Fair enough mate, makes sense.  Hope you get the deal you're looking for.  I'm in the process of ordering and securing a deal on an R (factory specced) also, but most likely going for 1st Sept delivery now due to long wait times.  Moving from a mk6.

If you're still over the moon with your newish GTI, why change though?

[JB GTI]

I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was that a more favourable deal would be possible around February as it will be a much slower month for them and reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st   

Fair enough mate, makes sense.  Hope you get the deal you're looking for.  I'm in the process of ordering and securing a deal on an R (factory specced) also, but most likely going for 1st Sept delivery now due to long wait times.  Moving from a mk6.

If you're still over the moon with your newish GTI, why change though?

Simple. I can't resist an opportunity like this 

[am1w]

JB GTI:
I would be a bit sceptical about VW putting out a new campaign for the R in the first quarter of 2015. If I recall there were three or four campaigns this year one of which lasted just 3 days! I hope they do for your sake and you get the deal you want. Otherwise, you still have your excellent GTI which still delights you. Win-win!

[JB GTI]

JB GTI:
I would be a bit sceptical about VW putting out a new campaign for the R in the first quarter of 2015. If I recall there were three or four campaigns this year one of which lasted just 3 days! I hope they do for your sake and you get the deal you want. Otherwise, you still have your excellent GTI which still delights you. Win-win!

I am not too far away from agreement anyway so while there may or may not be another carrot from VW the fact that my dealer has ordered the exact car I want gives me the impression that they are confident we will reach a satisfactory conclusion   

[wigit]

Failing to see you are truly in the driving seat for the best deal on this, end of the day the dealer knows they have a well specced R and will have a queue of potential candidates for this will to miss the wait

Good luck

[monkeyhanger]

I have to agree with Wigit here. The longer wait you have without a secured p/x price, the more your GTI is depreciating and the less you'll get for it. Added to that you haven't got a commitment from the dealer to sell you that car at a certain price yet. I can see the car arriving (or being close to arrival) and the dealer will perhaps be wanting closer to RRP than you might've otherwise got. There will be people out there wanting to get their hands on an R without the wait and willing to pay pretty close to post-Nov price increase RRP.

I'd be doing my utmost to tie the dealer down to a solid price to change if I were you.

[JB GTI]

Quite happy to go with the flow. If it is meant to be it will happen. If not something else will come along. Its not like they  are a special edition limited production run car.

[monkeyhanger]

Well, after the BW enquiry around 2 weeks ago just prior to adding Pretorias to my order seeing my estimated BW jump from BW4 to BW 8 according to VW UK and BW18 according to my dealer, within an hour of each other, I thought i'd see what my order was doing.

After telling the VW UK rep what had transpired, she excitedly said "good news, it's come down to BW 15!". No it hasn't, it's gone up 7 weeks if I ignore the dealer's quoted BW and stick with what VW UK have told me. BW15, isn't that the week commencing 6th April 2015? If so it'll probably not be ready until early May (assuming past experience of Tyne bound cars not hanging around at Emden long, and proximity of the dealer to Port of Tyne ensuring it gets delivered to the dealership within 3 working days of landing dockside). I'm away on my Hols from the 24th April, so it'll probably be waiting for me on my return.