Mk7's front Radar

[corgi]

I guess that there is a table that they use to work it out.

I imagine that there is...

I know there's one in England and Wales... the magistrates use it for guidance, although they are not bound by it...

[ChrisUK01]

I do not know even how to switch it on, I took delivery today of my GTI and I am sure the emergency braking is off.

[Finglonga]

I do not know even how to switch it on, I took delivery today of my GTI and I am sure the emergency braking is off.

It is on by default to get the lower insurance group and it can be turned off temporarily by pressing the end of the Indicator stalk and then pressing "ok" (also turns off/on lane assist by scrolling up/down if fitted).

[matchboy]

If you signed a statement saying you were doing 53 yet the documents you have state 54 then IMO you can challenge this and get off.  The police haven't filled out the information correctly and it also implies the radar isn't callibrated correctly - therefore I'd tell them to jog on.  This happened to my brother and to one of my best mates - if everything doesn't match up then tough sh!t for the police I'm afraid you can challenge it.

[p3asa]

I never signed anything or was given anything at the time.
I came away from it thinking they had told me it was 53.

Yet in the paperwork they have sent me to take me to court it states it was 54 I was allegedly doing but the statement I gave at the time (which they have given me a copy of) I said I don't believe I was doing 53!!

They are at it whatever way I look at it.

Looks like I'll just have to bend over and take it like a man!

[monkeyhanger]

I never signed anything or was given anything at the time.
I came away from it thinking they had told me it was 53.

Yet in the paperwork they have sent me to take me to court it states it was 54 I was allegedly doing but the statement I gave at the time (which they have given me a copy of) I said I don't believe I was doing 53!!

They are at it whatever way I look at it.

Looks like I'll just have to bend over and take it like a man!

Its a bugger when you doubt you were doing that speed, i'm under no doubt I was doing the speed they said I was when I got caught, I just thought the speed limit was higher than it was (it used to be higher).

If you don't have documentary conflicting figures then you don't have the get-out. Challenge in court and risk a greater punishment or cop to it, that's UK justice for you.

[corgi]

Agree with MonkeyHanger's comments; however, I know its galling but if you have no proof that you were at or below the speed limit and they, apparently, do then there's little recourse to you but to plead guilty and accept your punishment...

According to the sentencing guidelines for England and Wales (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk%2Fdocs%2FMCSG_%28web%29_-_Complete_8.pdf&ei=BQ41VN6qJYvksATCl4CIAg&usg=AFQjCNFLZJL4V_pT5VOa6Ei67lCbSnKY4w&sig2=5r9liy7bl6OleE4aoHETMA

For 54mph in a 30 zone you are looking at a 7-56 day ban OR 6 points and a fine of between 75% and 125% of your relevant weekly income it could be less if you are a high earner... if you plead guilty and you do not show any factors including higher culpability...

There are very limited mitigating circumstances allowed.

It is a tough one, if I were you, I'd plead guilty, apologise, say it was out of character etc. if you try to challenge it and they think that you're being frivolous you might well end up at the higher end of the punishment scale...

It might be worth going to have  a discussion with a solicitor - some will provide a free consultation...

[p3asa]

Thankfully Scotland doesn't have Court Sentencing Guidelines although you are then at the mercy of a judge who may very well have had road rage on the way in to work and you're about to cop his anger!!

Apparently I am looking at between 3 - 6 points, a possible ban of up to 56 days and up to £1000 fine.

Interestingly I have contacted a few solicitors and they say because of the line of sight thing, I would have a good chance of winning my case but obviously at a cost.

[monkeyhanger]

Are you able to recoup costs if you win (in a Scottish court)?

[adekil]

54 in a 30 will be 6 points and a fine, no ban as its at the lower end of the spectrum for this speed and they will want something out of you £££ wise.... Its sh*tty I know from a 1 off experience I had for 53 in a 30 but unless money is no object and you plan to challenge, take the hit and plead guilty as this will deduct 25% of the fine of a weekly salary. Your only concern will be if your insurance company has a 1 or 2 strikes policy and don't up your premiums, fortunately my insurance company has a 2 strikes policy so I wasn't hit too bad in the pocket.